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Really? Will US/UK troops be under UN command from June 30th?
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No.Originally posted by joncha
Really? Will US/UK troops be under UN command from June 30th?
US is still responsible for security. US will retain command.
UN is to take over the government, and the US appointed government will dissolved.
It's the best of both worlds.
A UN military command is the worst possible thing that could happen.
Though, I can see a joint command happening where if other countries wanted to contribute more troops, they would be assigned under a UN banner to quieter areas of the country.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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UN command of Spanish troops, however, is what the Socialists called for by the June 30th deadline. So a UN administrated civilian administration (whether or not it's a good thing) does not address Zapatero's conditions.Originally posted by Ted Striker
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US is still responsible for security. US will retain command.
UN is to take over the government, and the US appointed government will dissolved.
It's the best of both worlds.
A UN military command is the worst possible thing that could happen.
Though, I can see a joint command happening where if other countries wanted to contribute more troops, they would be assigned under a UN banner to quieter areas of the country.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~Comment
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Well good on him for setting up a situation that would never happen.
I would be afraid for any troops placed under a UN command.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Regardless, it is not the case that Spain is pulling out "despite getting what they wanted." They are pulling out because they didn't get what they wanted.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~Comment
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What they wanted was to pull out troops, regardless of what happened.
But to set conditions of turning over command to the UN is the equivalent of setting up a strawman in an Apolyton Off Topic thread.
Not to mention, for the US to keep command was a recommendation of the UN surveyor.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Good Lord! Does your capacity to totally be wrong have any bounds?Originally posted by GePap
And if Spanish troops stay, a recrutiung tool is born. Stationing 1300 foreign troops as part of a foreing occupation just tells those same 14 year olds that the infidels want to destroy Islam and kill Arabs.
When a democracy is established in Iraq and the truth begins to reach these kids, then and only then, will terrorism begin to subside. You seem to totally ignore the fact that the anti-American line is taught to them as a method of control by power hungry religious "clergy".
Perhaps, when democracy is finally established, they will even be willing to show you the truth.
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See if Spanish troops go, that will give a recruiting tool. And a bigger one then if they stay. The terrorist are saying "HEY we got the Spanish to go, if we attack more and more we can get the US to go." And then you have thousands of more terrorists. That's why it would be stupid to leave.Originally posted by GePap
And if Spanish troops stay, a recrutiung tool is born. Stationing 1300 foreign troops as part of a foreing occupation just tells those same 14 year olds that the infidels want to destroy Islam and kill Arabs.
Anything that happens in Iraq is a huge AQ recruitment pool-the whole war is one. A minor act like what the Spaniards are doing will make a miniscule difference to the Arab street in the long run.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Oh stop whining - if you want something done it's always best to do it yourself.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Somehow don't think putting the UN in command of the government is going to be enough to placate the insurgents. I predict that they will simply start attacking foreigners of every ilk. Did I say start? I should have said continue. They will continue to attack foreigners of every ilk. Jeez, they're even attacking Iranians. I think these guys are bent on self-destruction."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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They shot an Iranian diplomat in the head. A high ranking diplomat too...Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Somehow don't think putting the UN in command of the government is going to be enough to placate the insurgents. I predict that they will simply start attacking foreigners of every ilk. Did I say start? I should have said continue. They will continue to attack foreigners of every ilk. Jeez, they're even attacking Iranians. I think these guys are bent on self-destruction.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Not necessarily - if the christian fundamentalist forces were replaced with a UN force made up predominantly of troops from muslim countries and commanded by say a Pakistani or Egyptian that could go a long way to easing tensions.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Unusual neotiating tactics that's for sure. I wonder if al-Sadr traces his family back to the Sultans of Mesopotamia some 800 years ago? Maybe he needs to review the history of the Mongol empire."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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