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Originally posted by Giancarlo
They shot an Iranian diplomat in the head. A high ranking diplomat too...
They shot an Iranian diplomat in the head. A high ranking diplomat too...
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Who is "they"?Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
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Iraqi Insurgents. I think it was the Shi'a insurgents, but I would have to look into that.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Who is "they"?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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With your excellent sources I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of it.Originally posted by Giancarlo
but I would have to look into that.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
With your excellent sources I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of it.
They don't know why or who did it.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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That was my point
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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I'm suspecting people related with the current uprising.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
That was my point
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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One thing that the recent history of the ME has shown is that once there aren't Westerners or Jews to be fought, Muslims will happily fight amongst themselves.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Not necessarily - if the christian fundamentalist forces were replaced with a UN force made up predominantly of troops from muslim countries and commanded by say a Pakistani or Egyptian that could go a long way to easing tensions.
Iraq's problem is that is a patchwork of virulent sectarianism that was clumsily glued together by the Brits and was since strongarmed together by a brutal tyrant. There's no real Iraq to keep together--the notion is a complete fraud. Without a near-totalitarian adminstration to literally force the country together, it will dissolve into anarchic civil war and fragment.
So no, there's not a shred of a chance the UN will be effective at maintaining order. Unfortunately, the U.S. is barely capable of it now, and I believe it's going to get far worse as resentment grows, which it does every day.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I say we unite Iran and Iraq and recreate Persia.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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I think the more realistic answer is to consider that maybe Iraq should be divided into two, perhaps three new states.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I think there should be a Kurdistan carved out of just Iraq. Of course the Turks won't want it. And Iranians won't either. And the Syrians won't like that either....Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I think the more realistic answer is to consider that maybe Iraq should be divided into two, perhaps three new states.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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I dunno, division seems to have worked for the Soviet Union countries, (except Chechnya), but I don't know how much Turkey would enjoy a Kurdistan on it's border.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Of course they wouldn't. Since the administration promised Turkey there'd be no independent Kurdistan, that route seems closed for now. I was thinking for the two to be a Sunni state and a Shi'ite state.Originally posted by Ted Striker
I dunno, division seems to have worked for the Soviet Union countries, (except Chechnya), but I don't know how much Turkey would enjoy a Kurdistan on it's border.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I don't think the Kurds would get along with the Sunnis to be in one state.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Of course they wouldn't. Since the administration promised Turkey there'd be no independent Kurdistan, that route seems closed for now. I was thinking for the two to be a Sunni state and a Shi'ite state.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Nor would they get along with them in Iraq as it stands now. As it is, the Kurds have a large degree of autonomy in the north. I don't think that will change fundamentally whatever structure is reached.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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2 states and a UN mandated autonomous state in the north overseen by the US ??"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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