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  • #16
    OK. How long would it take to organize withdrawal plans for a couple hundred soldiers? It usually takes the United States a few weeks when shipping "x" number of soldiers home. I would imagine Spain would be the same? Perhaps a bit less, since their country isn't across an ocean?

    At any rate, my good Germanos, I'm sure Spain's contribution to Iraq will be gone before July 1, 2004. Then again, I'm not a logistics expert, either.

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    • #17
      BeBro:

      No, you heard right. I'm not sure of the status of that deal right now, though. Last I heard, Spain had only 150 soldiers or so in Afghanistan, and if the deal goes through, it'd be boosted to 250 soldiers (or something along those lines).

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      • #18
        oh yeah.

        good riddance. we don't need 'em anyways.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Giancarlo


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          • #20
            Spain for not being a pawn to Osama and Bush.
            Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

            Do It Ourselves

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            • #21
              Yep, I think they are supposed to send more troops to Afghanistan.


              Though I thought if the UN took over Iraq (which it will) that he was going to leave them there???
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              • #22
                Originally posted by General Ludd
                Spain for not being a pawn to Osama and Bush.
                That's bull****.

                Spain is being the pawn for Al Qaeda.

                And by not listening to Bush, is surrendering to Al Qaeda. **** Zapatero, and if there is a hell I hope he rots in it one day.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #23
                  Giancarlo, I don't agree with your definition of surrendering. Doing the exact opposite what terrorists wants is not always the best or only way to fight terrorism. I'm not talking about the situation here, just in general.

                  However, I hope Spain can keep the troopers at least to the day talked about earlier and maybe bring more troops to A-stan instead of completely pulling out.
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                  • #24
                    the pullout method is ineffective and haphazard at best

                    sooner or later you'll slip and she'll get pregnant
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                    • #25
                      Spain for not being a pawn to Osama and Bush.
                      They wouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan if that were the case.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Pekka
                        Giancarlo, I don't agree with your definition of surrendering. Doing the exact opposite what terrorists wants is not always the best or only way to fight terrorism. I'm not talking about the situation here, just in general.

                        However, I hope Spain can keep the troopers at least to the day talked about earlier and maybe bring more troops to A-stan instead of completely pulling out.
                        By pulling out troops and surrendering to demands made by Al Qaeda, I do see it as exactly that. This is a surrender to Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda wanted Spanish troops out of Iraq, and they got hat. They better stick to their June 30th word, and maybe even keep them more if they get their stupid UN endorsement.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #27
                          Giancarlo, I meant in more general way.... this one is more trickier. I don't think Spain has surrendered to AQ, but I think they shouldn't have pulled out their troops because it only makes it worse in the long term.
                          In da butt.
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                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Pekka
                            Giancarlo, I meant in more general way.... this one is more trickier. I don't think Spain has surrendered to AQ, but I think they shouldn't have pulled out their troops because it only makes it worse in the long term.
                            I'm not speaking in general terms. I'm speaking in specifics.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #29
                              This is worse than Stalingrad. I have read that the British military will pull out if the resistance gets stronger.

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                              • #30
                                You're worse than The Onion when it comes to reliable info though, TD.
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