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  • Originally posted by Saint Marcus
    Mods: can Felch be banned for his call for genocide?
    Hey, the US closed down Sadr's newspapers for less after all...

    Aww, he's just being a troll - not a very good one at that...

    Though apparently the US is listening to his carpet bombing ideas...

    US air strike hits Falluja mosque

    Killing forty people in a mosque is really gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people...
    Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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    • hmmmm, now O'Reilly is calling for the US to withdraw:



      Most interesting.
      Stop Quoting Ben

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        • Originally posted by Boshko
          hmmmm, now O'Reilly is calling for the US to withdraw:
          Hey, he might even team up with Michael Moore now!

          On the bombing of the mosque, very bad idea. But is anything known about people hiding inside that mosque?
          "I will not give you a cup of water if you were drowning in the desert!"

          Just my favourite CIV-quote. :)

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          • It's supposed to have been armed fighters, mostly at least. Still, even if it's so, I doubt that many Iraqis will be understanding and see a Mosque as just any building.

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            • Originally posted by MOBIUS
              Aww, he's just being a troll - not a very good one at that...
              People are still responding to him.
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              • Originally posted by MOBIUS
                Though apparently the US is listening to his carpet bombing ideas...

                US air strike hits Falluja mosque

                Killing forty people in a mosque is really gonna win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people...
                One bomb on target or off target doesn't exactly make for carpet bombing. Of course, the whiners have to work with whatever they can get.
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                • From the media reports I've seen, if wasn't carpet bombing, but deliberate targeting of the mosque. I somehow doubt that will meet very much greater understanding from the typical Iraqi.
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                  • Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                    One bomb on target or off target doesn't exactly make for carpet bombing. Of course, the whiners have to work with whatever they can get.
                    When the target is a mosque, people will not be understanding in Iraq.
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                    • I would just like to note that, now that the Americans bombed a mosque without any major international backlash, a precedent was set. Therefore, a certain country that so far avoided mosques can now lob missiles into them at will.
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                      • Keep dreaming, Eli, keep dreaming....
                        "I will not give you a cup of water if you were drowning in the desert!"

                        Just my favourite CIV-quote. :)

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                        • What do you mean no mayor international backlash? The story is not even fully out.


                          1. The US can claim it was in the heat of mayor combat-if at any point you guys have 1300 troops trying to pacify a town, meet very heavy resistance, and bomb a mosque, well, then you can ask for equal treatment.

                          2. sadly, the US gets special rules to play by-not fair to anyone else, but as they say, the law for the rich ain;t the same...

                          It won;t do **** to win hearts and minds, and even if this operation succeeds in rooting out most militiamen there NOW, it won;t do much to prevent new kids signing up, specially if too much coolateral damage occurs.
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                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
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                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • Blah. Us hitting a Mosque is likely just what the opposition wanted.

                            Not good.

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                            • Originally posted by GePap


                              When the target is a mosque, people will not be understanding in Iraq.
                              The target was a bunch of armed *******s. The mosque just happened to be nearby. We're not there to ask for people's understanding, in case nobody noticed.

                              Armed insurgents are not going to be given carte blanche sanctuary to operate from within mosques with impunity, and if the Iraqi religious leaders and Iraqi people don't like it, they should consider coming up with some means to prevent misuse of mosques as fighting positions, staging and supply areas for combatant forces. Or they should consider that if they fail to come up with a way to address the problem, they may not like the results.
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                              • Or they should consider that if they fail to come up with a way to address the problem, they may not like the results.


                                What does any of this have to do with local perception? And they will answer "next time, stay out, there won;t even be fighting, and hence militants won't need to use mosques"

                                IN short, we are seeing the problems of balancing military victory with political victory. Politically, it would have been far better to have iraqi security guys storm the building-certainly much bloodier to our side, but far less politicallt damaging.
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                                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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