GM foods are harsher on the environment. Pesticide resitent crops mean that they can drench fields on toxics without having to worry about the crop dying. We already have a big problem with runoff pollution, this will make it much worse.
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maybe u want to change ur first post cuz u seem to have the words "good riddance" in them. to mine ears that does not sound like support.Originally posted by MOBIUS
I think the only thing hysterical on this thread are the comments from some of the pro GM side...
I said before - I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GM!
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I like the idea of GM foods, but I think they should be labled with the modification. Also, one of th purposes of GM foods is to consolidate control of agriculture. No company owns natural seeds, so the farmer can save a stock from his harvest to replant. With GM seeds, the company owns the patent, so saving the seeds would be a patent violation. This costs the farmer more money, and will end up driving more small farmers out of business.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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I think we should be in the business of driving small farmers out of business. do they have some god given right to farm that I was unaware of?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I like the idea of GM foods, but I think they should be labled with the modification. Also, one of th purposes of GM foods is to consolidate control of agriculture. No company owns natural seeds, so the farmer can save a stock from his harvest to replant. With GM seeds, the company owns the patent, so saving the seeds would be a patent violation. This costs the farmer more money, and will end up driving more small farmers out of business.
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And then I went on to post my opinions as to why...Originally posted by yavoon
maybe u want to change ur first post cuz u seem to have the words "good riddance" in them. to mine ears that does not sound like support.
It could be the fact that you're using your ears to read this thread is why you missed that salient point in the 1st place.
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like I said, edit first post. it is obviously misleading as to ur intention and will only save u much time and annoyance by conveying ur real intentions in ur first post. would it not? or do u like screaming at ppl to digup every post u've made because they seem to contradict each other?Originally posted by MOBIUS
And then I went on to post my opinions as to why...
It could be the fact that you're using your ears to read this thread is why you missed that salient point in the 1st place.
is that explained out enuff for u?
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Well, the compound that it is used the most with, glyphosate (Roundup, etc.), breaks down within days to harmless stuff anyway. But you are right that in the short-term GM may increase herbicide usage on some crops.We already have a big problem with runoff pollution, this will make it much worse.
On the other hand, you can burn down the weeds so much that they stay dead and you won't have to redose the field. IOW, it's a more complicated picture.
Edit: I might add that there are a lot of GM foods that drastically reduce insecticide usage. Bt corn, cotton, etc.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Also, one of th purposes of GM foods is to consolidate control of agriculture. No company owns natural seeds, so the farmer can save a stock from his harvest to replant. With GM seeds, the company owns the patent, so saving the seeds would be a patent violation. This costs the farmer more money, and will end up driving more small farmers out of business.
That doesn't make sense. If these seeds will drive small farmers out of bussiness, they're not economical, and the farmers shouldn't be buying them in the first place. but, boy are they buying.
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It explains that you appear to have problems with reading comprehension.Originally posted by yavoon
like I said, edit first post. it is obviously misleading as to ur intention and will only save u much time and annoyance by conveying ur real intentions in ur first post. would it not? or do u like screaming at ppl to digup every post u've made because they seem to contradict each other?
is that explained out enuff for u?
My first post stands, I have a problem with GM policy in the UK in its current form.
If they can find a more palatable (pun intended) way to promote in this country, I would consider supporting it.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
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...and then there are genetically modified crops which are more resistant to pests, thus lowering the amount of pesticide needed. Interesting, isn't it?GM foods are harsher on the environment. Pesticide resitent crops mean that they can drench fields on toxics without having to worry about the crop dying. We already have a big problem with runoff pollution, this will make it much worse.
And now, time for some quick, more personal opinions:
noI think we should be in the business of driving small farmers out of business.
nodo they have some god given right to farm that I was unaware of?
Inserting labels of 'this is GM' on the covers of ready products? Yes.I like the idea of GM foods, but I think they should be labled with the modification.
I think I've heard about the patent procedure before... hasn't this been a big problem in India? I think the the whole idea that a corporation should have a patent (ie. justified monopoly) for any plant is total bs.Also, one of th purposes of GM foods is to consolidate control of agriculture. No company owns natural seeds, so the farmer can save a stock from his harvest to replant. With GM seeds, the company owns the patent, so saving the seeds would be a patent violation. This costs the farmer more money, and will end up driving more small farmers out of business.
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its not difficult to understand. but what u typed here is not in ur original post. which is why I recommended editing it. I worry about ur recalcitrance, it seems unwaranted. I am not the bad guy. halp u to halp meh!Originally posted by MOBIUS
It explains that you appear to have problems with reading comprehension.
My first post stands, I have a problem with GM policy in the UK in its current form.
If they can find a more palatable (pun intended) way to promote in this country, I would consider supporting it.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
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"We have much more food than we can possibly use."
It's not about quantity and nothing else. if we can make the same quality of food cheaper, or the same price food healthier, then why not. If GM can do this, then I am in favour and would buy it.www.my-piano.blogspot
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