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  • "I don't know if I'm in love with you any more..."

    ...**** **** ****ity ****.


    That, my friends, is what my fiancee said to me yesterday. (not the "**** **** ****ity ****" bit... that was my internal reaction.)

    I am... coping. Not terribly well, mind you, but coping.

    She wants to see a counselor, which I have no objections to--anything to help salvage the relationship.

    I have not spoken about this to anyone yet, save her parents; they have called and emailed, and are almost as stunned as I am.

    There isn't anyone else. I almost wish there were; that would be a more fixable problem, I think.

    Needless to say, we're both under an ungodly amount of stress. I just matched in Columbus, have to be there in three months. The wedding was originally scheduled to be in two months. My grandmother just left the hospital after a month of GI problems. My brother told me a couple weeks ago that he would not be in my wedding--his wife and the rest of my family have been feuding for about two years. From what I've heard, I think she has showed signs of Borderline Personality Disorder. Regardless, no one has seen their two kids for over a year; my mom is devastated about that. My parents just moved three+ hours north of here, so I don't see them very much. Meanwhile, she has chronic depression, which hasn't responded super-well to various medications (which, naturally, lower her sex drive); she recently lost two family members who were very, very close to her; she's trying to figure out what sort of job or school she could do in Columbus IF she were to move with me (christ, it hurts to type that)... there's more, but I really can't stand to dwell on this anymore.

    Despite all these stresses, she feels that the problem goes deeper than just being overwhelmed by everything. I certainly can't disagree; she feels what she feels, and I can't be angry at her for that.

    ****

    I think I just needed to get some of this off my chest. I have yet to talk to my parents about this; I've sort of been the stable person in the family, the "highlight" I guess, becoming a doctor and all, since this whole thing with my sister-in-law started. Nearly all of our conversations in recent times revolve around how excited she is for the wedding, and how awful she feels about my brother. Plus now she's worried about her mother's health. I have no idea what this news is going to do to her. But I don't know how long I can keep this from her and my father.



    I just realized this post has no definable organizational structure or anything. Sorry about that.

    And if I'm cranky and cruel and high-strung with any of you guys (moreso than usual, anyway), I apologize. I... well, I got a lot on my mind.

    Thanks for letting me rant.
    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

  • #2
    It's good that she's being honest with you.
    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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    • #3
      Take care dude.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #4
        Re: "I don't know if I'm in love with you any more..."

        Originally posted by Guynemer
        Meanwhile, she has chronic depression, which hasn't responded super-well to various medications
        I am sorry for your pain, but if the above statement is true than you are fortunate. Living with someone with chronic depression is a daily challenge and will dictate how you live your life. No details, but trust me on this one.
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • #5
          Well, frowny smilies would seem a little trite. Very sorry to hear about this--but I'm not sure what else you can do. I do know that couples often go through these rocky periods, particularly when stressed. Hopefully the counselor will help.
          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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          • #6
            It's good that she's being honest with you.



            I agree. She said this has only occurred to her within the past week or two; much better this is out in the open quickly, as opposed to letting it grow beyond all help.

            And she brought it all up, including counseling. So there is a large part of her, at least, that wants to try to save this. There is reason for optimism. But that doesn't mean my soul hasn't been crushed and ground into the dirt and generally pummeled beyond recognition.
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • #7
              Re: Re: "I don't know if I'm in love with you any more..."

              Originally posted by PLATO
              Living with someone with chronic depression is a daily challenge and will dictate how you live your life.
              Ain't that the truth.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #8
                Re: Re: "I don't know if I'm in love with you any more..."

                Originally posted by PLATO


                I am sorry for your pain, but if the above statement is true than you are fortunate. Living with someone with chronic depression is a daily challenge and will dictate how you live your life. No details, but trust me on this one.
                No doubts. I can't imagine the hell she goes through. I do what I can to help, but there's only so much that's possible.
                "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                • #9
                  Dude, that sucks... I'm sorry .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #10
                    Hopefully it's nervous jitters.
                    If not, "I don't know..." = She knows.

                    Hang in there, Guy. Do counceling if she's worth it to you.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SlowwHand
                      Do counceling if she's worth it to you.
                      Damned well better believe it. It may be cliche, but she is the best thing that has even happened to me.
                      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                      • #12
                        It can really be nervous jitters, especially with her current stress. Don't be too wrecked, until you know the final stage of the sotry.
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #13
                          Re: "I don't know if I'm in love with you any more..."

                          Originally posted by Guynemer
                          ...**** **** ****ity ****.


                          That, my friends, is what my fiancee said to me yesterday. (not the "**** **** ****ity ****" bit... that was my internal reaction.)

                          I am... coping. Not terribly well, mind you, but coping.

                          She wants to see a counselor, which I have no objections to--anything to help salvage the relationship.

                          I have not spoken about this to anyone yet, save her parents; they have called and emailed, and are almost as stunned as I am.

                          There isn't anyone else. I almost wish there were; that would be a more fixable problem, I think.

                          Needless to say, we're both under an ungodly amount of stress. I just matched in Columbus, have to be there in three months. The wedding was originally scheduled to be in two months. My grandmother just left the hospital after a month of GI problems. My brother told me a couple weeks ago that he would not be in my wedding--his wife and the rest of my family have been feuding for about two years. From what I've heard, I think she has showed signs of Borderline Personality Disorder. Regardless, no one has seen their two kids for over a year; my mom is devastated about that. My parents just moved three+ hours north of here, so I don't see them very much. Meanwhile, she has chronic depression, which hasn't responded super-well to various medications (which, naturally, lower her sex drive); she recently lost two family members who were very, very close to her; she's trying to figure out what sort of job or school she could do in Columbus IF she were to move with me (christ, it hurts to type that)... there's more, but I really can't stand to dwell on this anymore.

                          Despite all these stresses, she feels that the problem goes deeper than just being overwhelmed by everything. I certainly can't disagree; she feels what she feels, and I can't be angry at her for that.

                          ****

                          I think I just needed to get some of this off my chest. I have yet to talk to my parents about this; I've sort of been the stable person in the family, the "highlight" I guess, becoming a doctor and all, since this whole thing with my sister-in-law started. Nearly all of our conversations in recent times revolve around how excited she is for the wedding, and how awful she feels about my brother. Plus now she's worried about her mother's health. I have no idea what this news is going to do to her. But I don't know how long I can keep this from her and my father.



                          I just realized this post has no definable organizational structure or anything. Sorry about that.

                          And if I'm cranky and cruel and high-strung with any of you guys (moreso than usual, anyway), I apologize. I... well, I got a lot on my mind.

                          Thanks for letting me rant.
                          See the councillor. every relationship is salvagable (well, almost).

                          But I think you need to find out what exactly is bothering her before you could have any hope of knowing the right things to say. From my experience, it takes a lot of prying to get girls to actually tell you whats wrong (if its to the point where she doesn't think she loves you anymore), and will often give a million other excuses like "its just me" or some dumb thing you said. You said that she said it went "deeper" than just the stresses. This kind of makes me think there's something she's not saying (obviously), but furthermore that its something she doesn't want to say.

                          And don't discount someone else being in the picture... not in the sense that she's cheating, but in the sense that there is someone else she may have "crushed on". I think alot of times girls who are depressed kind of think that their problems would be fixed if they were with someone else (even though thats obviously not true) so they are drawn to these guys and consequently fall out of love with you.

                          Just a hypothesis though, I'm sure there isn't anyone. But if there is... you better nip that in the bud while you still can.

                          Anyways, these situations suck more than anything (I know), but if you're careful you can get through it. Of course this is assuming that this girl is worth it and that you lvoe her.

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                          • #14
                            Guynemer - that hurts. I'll be hoping for the best for you. Based on what you wrote, you're handling this better than most people I know and seems to have your head squarely on your shoulders. That's a good sign for you. It doesn't diminish the heart-agonizing emotional pain you must be going through. Good luck and remember, you're the most important person to yourself.
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                            • #15
                              Remember...revenge is a dish best served cold
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