Some people here seem to think that the Islamists are bent on conquering the whole world and won't stop until this goal is achieved, while others believe that we should appease/negotiate with radical Islamists. What do you think?
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Do you believe the Islamist terrorists' goal is to conquer the world?
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Current goal is to establish a pan-Islamic Caliphate throughout the world by working with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow regimes it deems “non-Islamic†and expelling Westerners and non-Muslims from Muslim countries–particularly Saudi Arabia. Issued statement under banner of “the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders†in February 1998, saying it was the duty of all Muslims to kill US citizens—civilian or military—and their allies everywhere."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Yes, that is their goal
They will make excuses like getting USA out of the middle east and also the Israel Palestine thing but those are just excuses for them to take the political high groundWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
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Originally posted by PLATOBy the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.
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No.
World conquest and world domination are completely different things. For exmaple, the UK had global domination during the middle of the 19th century, and the US has global domination today. Neither ever even contemplated world conquest.
Saying that Muslims want to re-establish the Caliphate would mean the creation of one huge empire, but EVEN if we then "re-add" sections of the world once under direct Muslim control, most of the world remains free. I see no huge attempts by Muslim extermists to conquer China or the Americas (attacking the US and wanting to conquer the US are too very very different things).
The fact is the claim someone seeks world conquest is very farfectched but common hyperbole. Hell, Nazi Germany didn;t want world conquest-neither did Stalin at his height.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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No, because world conquest is impossible
Their most successful goal is disruption.
Of course, short term goals include those things like "getting USA out of Palestine," "getting Jews out of Palestine," that stuff, which is more regular. Their biggest long-term priority, however, is disruption: not DESTROYING our way of life, but making it awful.meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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I don't think that they want to conquer the world. I also don't see anything wrong with a Caliphate of nations that are predominantly Muslim or Arab and a vote by their people to join such a government. Democracy at work. I also think that once this government is formed the Muslims can work on rebuilding their society vs destrioying ourselves so they can rebuild in peace.What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
The terrorist groups have never been the least bit hesitant about the fact that their goal is to establish a global Islamic state.Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
-Richard Dawkins
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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
The terrorist groups have never been the least bit hesitant about the fact that their goal is to establish a global Islamic state.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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