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  • #46
    You're right of course that why should sign up to expedite killing them all.
    What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
    What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ted Striker
      True

      I think that if the Iranian youth ever emerges to take power, they could be the influential change from within that you are referring to Doc.
      I see that too and that revolution is coming. Hey it will eventually come (inevitable) when the new generation comes to power when all the very old religious theocrats die.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Pax Africanus
        If the U.K. can talk with Sinn Fein
        If the Spaniards can talk with the ETA
        and etc.
        Then someone can communicate with AQ.
        All OBL has to do is arrange a personal meeting. I'm sure that someone from the US government would be willing to show up.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #49
          I agree with DOC!!
          What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
          What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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          • #50
            Originally posted by DinoDoc
            All OBL has to do is arrange a personal meeting. I'm sure that someone from the US government would be willing to show up.
            There are 300 million of us who would just love to show up to that meeting.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Pax Africanus
              You're right of course that why should sign up to expedite killing them all.
              Why can't that be left to people more fit to do the job? I am sick of this ****ty side tracking. If you have something to address, address my points. Not making irrelevant comments like this. There are people more fit then me to go out there and kill terrorists. They are called soldiers.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Pax Africanus
                If the U.K. can talk with Sinn Fein
                If the Spaniards can talk with the ETA
                and etc.
                As I thought I had pointed out earlier, all terrorist are not created out of the same mold. Both Sinn Fein(or IRA if you will) and ETA are trying to achieve political goals of their own. These goals do not involve the total subjagation of their enemy. In fact, both would probably prefer good relations with their enemy once their goals are obtained. AQ is different. There is no room for comprimise in their objectives and those objectives call for the destruction of all opposition. AQ cannot be bargained with...they must be destroyed or jailed...period.
                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by PLATO


                  AQ cannot be bargained with...they must be destroyed or jailed...period.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Giancarlo


                    Why can't that be left to people more fit to do the job? I am sick of this ****ty side tracking. If you have something to address, address my points. Not making irrelevant comments like this. There are people more fit then me to go out there and kill terrorists. They are called soldiers.
                    Sorry, once again. I still find that people who are motivated for action should also be willing to put themselves at the same risk our soldiers are put at. The way I see it there are American lives at stake. People I know personally. Before I risk there lives then I want to feel that it is worth it. I feel that your position as most people who are pro liberate Iraq are reckless. Even so, I am willing to risk my life in defense of my country and have sworn to defend it. I will obey orders I disagree with. All I ask in return is that the american people don't squander my life over B.S. I am not a pawn or any other piece on a chess board. If there is an opportunity for a lasting peace then I feel it should be pursued.
                    Failing peace of course the only recourse is war. In war, I want my people to win. But the last time we had a war in which the enemy was unseen was Vietnam. Even then, the Vietnmese were not able to strike anywhere in the world. This leads me to the conclusion that the approach to this war has to be to cause the terrorists to lose support at their base. Can this be done by occupying their base. It was not done in Vietnam were the U.S. always had military superiority. I want this war to be won by the U.S. but the only way to do that is to make terrorism unpopular and the thought of dying so far has not caused any noticeable effect on AQ.
                    What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                    What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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                    • #55
                      The differences between the war on terror and Vietnam are so incredibly vast that noone could even begin to list them in the space provided here. They are also so incredibly vast that I find it nearly impossible to believe that you don't see enough of them to make that last post anything but a troll.
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Pax Africanus

                        Sorry, once again. I still find that people who are motivated for action should also be willing to put themselves at the same risk our soldiers are put at.
                        I personally think you are full of ****. First off there are people who have that job to do. There are better people for the job. And personally I can hold a damn opinion without being told I can't because I am not in the front lines.

                        The way I see it there are American lives at stake. People I know personally. Before I risk there lives then I want to feel that it is worth it.
                        I know three people in Iraq right now

                        I feel that your position as most people who are pro liberate Iraq are reckless.
                        You are reckless, stupid and arrogant. You consistently ignore the Iraqi people, you want them to die because you want to do nothing and you find that negogiating with terrorists is an option. If the world went your way, there would be no more western civilization. We would be all killed by terrorism. You either take a strong stance or you are with the terrorists.

                        ll I ask in return is that the american people don't squander my life over B.S. I am not a pawn or any other piece on a chess board. If there is an opportunity for a lasting peace then I feel it should be pursued.
                        Failing peace of course the only recourse is war. In war, I want my people to win.
                        Failing peace? What kind of nonsense is this? How can you get peace by talking with terrorists? They do not talk, only kill and the United States has a policy not to talk with terrorists.

                        Can this be done by occupying their base. It was not done in Vietnam were the U.S. always had military superiority. I want this war to be won by the U.S. but the only way to do that is to make terrorism unpopular and the thought of dying so far has not caused any noticeable effect on AQ.
                        How else can it be done, numb nuts? I would like to hear this one. You are terribly reckless in thinking the terrorists would go away.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #57
                          Once Again. I'm sorry if i have stepped on your right to free speech. I'm starting to understand what you mean about not being able to talk to someone. I keep telling you I support your right to free speech and you keep saying I don't.

                          I'm really not saying that you should give up the comfort of your home and go fight for your strong beliefs. I'm only saying that it's funny that a lot hawks stay at home while us chickens do the fighting.

                          I don't feel that we should surrender to any terrorists. I feel that we should stop labeling these groups as terrorists and talk not capitulate.

                          I'm sure that if those 3 people you know where to die over tere you would blame Saddam. The person who said these people were not welcome guests in Iraq.

                          Read all my posts and answer your own questions.
                          What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                          What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Pax Africanus
                            Once Again. I'm sorry if i have stepped on your right to free speech. I'm starting to understand what you mean about not being able to talk to someone. I keep telling you I support your right to free speech and you keep saying I don't.
                            I didn't say that. You said I should serve in the front lines to have this point of view, when that is obviously not true.

                            I'm only saying that it's funny that a lot hawks stay at home while us chickens do the fighting.
                            Not true. Most of the people I know in the US Military are not chickens. If anything nowadays it is you chickens protesting out in the streets. Not joining the military as it is voluntary.

                            I don't feel that we should surrender to any terrorists. I feel that we should stop labeling these groups as terrorists and talk not capitulate.
                            Wrong again. They are terrorists. Not label Al Qaeda, Hezbollah or Hamas terrorist? What planet are you on? If blowing up innocent civilians isn't terror, then I don't know what is.

                            I'm sure that if those 3 people you know where to die over tere you would blame Saddam. The person who said these people were not welcome guests in Iraq.

                            Read all my posts and answer your own questions.
                            I would blame former Saddam militants because they would be the ones killing troops there. And if it wasn't that, it would of been an accident.

                            Your reasoning is abhorrently faulty.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #59
                              Other than to say that this chicken is one of the ones fighting while you the hawk are not I have no more comments.
                              What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
                              What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Pax Africanus
                                Other than to say that this chicken is one of the ones fighting while you the hawk are not I have no more comments.
                                I'm not fit to serve as I am open about my homosexuality and am not the build. There are people for the job and all I know are proud of their duty and were for the war in Iraq. I also intend to finish my education and go onto a career, not the military as it is not for me. Comprende eso?
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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