First Darwin and then Homos? Never!

[Ming]

I've deleted a lot of crap from this thread (probably could have deleted most of it)

Let's stop with the insults and personal crap... I wouldn't recommend anybody start it all up again...

[Boris Godunov]

I miss everything.

[MrFun]

So now it's a moral outrage not only to engage in homosexual sex, but also for homosexuals to choose where they want to live and work.

stupid people

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrFun



So now it's a moral outrage not only to engage in homosexual sex, but also for homosexuals to choose where they want to live and work.

Of course!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Think of the children! Won't someone please think of the children!!

[Rogan Josh]

I think this is ridiculous of course, but I don't see how it would be against the constitution.

Aren't there already precidents here. For example, taking hard drugs is illegal isn't it? That doesn't affect anyone but the user. Committing suicide is illegal. I am sure we could think up more illagal activities which do no harm to anyone else. I don't see how a court could rule that the Govt is interfering in people's lives in this case, while not in the other cases.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
I think this is ridiculous of course, but I don't see how it would be against the constitution.

Aren't there already precidents here. For example, taking hard drugs is illegal isn't it? That doesn't affect anyone but the user. Committing suicide is illegal. I am sure we could think up more illagal activities which do no harm to anyone else. I don't see how a court could rule that the Govt is interfering in people's lives in this case, while not in the other cases.

You obviously assume, then, that one freely chooses their sexuality?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
I think this is ridiculous of course, but I don't see how it would be against the constitution.

Aren't there already precidents here. For example, taking hard drugs is illegal isn't it? That doesn't affect anyone but the user. Committing suicide is illegal. I am sure we could think up more illagal activities which do no harm to anyone else. I don't see how a court could rule that the Govt is interfering in people's lives in this case, while not in the other cases.

So it was perfectly fine before the 1960s, for laws to prohibit interracial marriages because, after all, even though interracial marriages did not harm anyone else, we prohibit illegal drug use.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

As for this ruling, I think that if one can limit immigration based on country of origin, you should be able to do the same with sexual preference.

After all, isn't race just like sexual preference?

I think that most people who want to limit immigration based on country of origin or religion would probably rule that it's okay to have a law that prevent an american citizen from living somewhere based on his/her sexual preference. Just like they would think it's okay to deny a certain race the right to live somewhere. All of that stuff is biased, prejudiced, unfair, and just plain wrong.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

As for this ruling, I think that if one can limit immigration based on country of origin, you should be able to do the same with sexual preference.

After all, isn't race just like sexual preference?

I can't tell if you're sincerely trying to advance this stupid argument, or if you were just making a tasteless, stupid joke.

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by MrFun


So it was perfectly fine before the 1960s, for laws to prohibit interracial marriages because, after all, even though interracial marriages did not harm anyone else, we prohibit illegal drug use.

No, it was not fine, for the same reasons that it is not fine to ban drugs or suicide or gay sex.

And yes, I think one chooses one sexuality more than one chooses whether or not to be addicted to drugs.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

I'm sure this won't catch on, and I'm sure if they do pass it, it will be overuled by some court.

That must be breaking some law...

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh

And yes, I think one chooses one sexuality more than one chooses whether or not to be addicted to drugs.

I'm just trying to get this straight (no pun intended):

Ignoring babies born hooked on drugs due to their mother's ingestion of them, you think that people who are addicted to drugs are forced to take drugs in the first place? Or is it that you can only become gay if you experiment with it first?

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
And yes, I think one chooses one sexuality more than one chooses whether or not to be addicted to drugs.

How so? What information could you possibly have to back this up?

People choose to start using and wanting drugs, people don't choose be sexual creatures. Everybody on this planet, in fact every mammal on this planet, has verifiable, observable sexual urges toward one or the other sex... and very often a member of the same sex. The most recent studies have generally supported the idea that while it is possible to direct the orientation of your sexuality, (as our brains have a high level of plasticity) it is very unlikely and I would doubt anyone here who is gay would say they had much of a choice in the matter.

And whats more, even if it was chosen, it would have been "chosen" at a very young age, before someone necessarily knows, intellectually, what sex or sexuality even is. And there are a million and one biological, genetic and social factors that all play into the creating of ones psycho-socio-sexual self, so it would be almost impossible to pinpoint any specific reason or cause for a person going one way or the other.

The point I'm making is that normal humans are usually straight, but not necessarily. How could you compare drug addiction to this?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh




No, it was not fine, for the same reasons that it is not fine to ban drugs or suicide or gay sex.

And yes, I think one chooses one sexuality more than one chooses whether or not to be addicted to drugs.

My rolling eyes smilie was more impressive than your rolling eyes smilie.