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  • wait a second. it was al qaeda who attacked spain? wasnt it ETA? i mean they had EVERYTHING to gain and it would make perfect sense!
    "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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    • That got old in the last thread.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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      • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
        wait a second. it was al qaeda who attacked spain? wasnt it ETA? i mean they had EVERYTHING to gain and it would make perfect sense!
        I think both were working together. The Moroccans, the bombs of Spanish origin... wouldn't surprise me.

        Here are two stories, and this means a stunning blow to Al Qaeda and its operations, a bit too damn late:



        "RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia pledged Tuesday to wipe out terror activity in the kingdom after a raid that killed the suspected al-Qaida chief on the Arabian peninsula — a man believed to have once been a bodyguard for Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

        Three of Saudi Arabia's 26 most-wanted militants are dead and hundreds of suspected extremists have been rounded up as a result of raids to seize weapons and Islamic militants. The latest raid, which resulted in the deaths Monday of Khaled Ali Haj and an accomplice, was thought to be an important blow to al-Qaida's regional operation."



        "WANA, Pakistan - Paramilitary troops stormed a fortress-like compound with mortars and machine-gun fire Tuesday, killing 24 suspects in a fierce crackdown on al-Qaida and Taliban fugitives in the rugged tribal regions bordering Afghanistan (news - web sites), the army spokesman said."
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • God damn...no one reads CNN.com anymore


          Dude, I posted that article in another thread like two days ago...
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          • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
            yea, 'le moteur d'europe: france et l'allemagne.' a very gallic thing, i remember learning that term in 8th grade history class. unfortunately, someone must have poured sugar in the gas tank cuz they havnt done very well in the last 10 years.
            This is the very reason why Chirac and Schröder decided to pump it up again about 14 months ago. Since then, the EU had an opportunity to go forth, especially with the constitution.

            However, France's and Germany's ambitions are inherently wrong: nation-States should now step aside from the European progress, and leave supranational institutions do the European job. If it wasn't for the haggling of individual States, the constitution would have passed.
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            • Originally posted by Ned


              BeBro, was a not you in another thread that suggested that the way end terrorism in the future was to bring good governments to the Islamic world, governments dedicated to democracy, to human rights and to economic progress. Governments that would give its people hope for the future. Only in such an environment will the the messages of the apostles of hate fall on deaf ears. But so long as the world of Islam is held in tight constraint by dictators and fundamentalists clerics who deny rights to all, and especially to women, the drumbeat of hatred hate of the West, the so-called Crusader states, will continue indefinitely.

              If you accept this as been fundamentally correct, your opposition making Iraq and Afghanistan democratic is incomprehensible.
              Why do you think I'm opposed to democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan? I never wrote this.
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              • Wait, the thread is now about evil France and Germany ruling the EU?

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                • That got old in the last thread.
                  and your trolls havnt?
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • I don't repeat them verbatim in all threads on a given subject.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • Originally posted by Oncle Boris
                      I need something more serious than this. Common sense would usually say that terrorism benefits the right, not the left.
                      Why is that?
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                      • In another thread, Fez said there was nothing the PP could have done to stop this attack from happening. If so, then what service did the war in Iraq serve Spain's security? If being with Bush does not make Spain safer-why should the Spanish electorate stay with that boat? People make the claim AQ's aims are univesalist-world domination and all that blather-well, if after 1 year in Iraq and 2 in Afghanistan Fezzie is right and there was nothing a government like Spain's do to stop a massive terrorist attack like the one in madrid, then what has been the point? And if Fezzie is wrong and the PP government, with different priorities, could have stopped the attack-why re-elect a government that failed in securing Spain?
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                        • The idea that al-Qaeda claims victory in Spain is completely abusurd. The war in Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with fighting al-Qaeda, and has in fact depleted resources going towards the reconstruction of Afghanistan and the destruction of al-Qaeda. In fact, how successful would the recent bombings have been if Spain had used the resources going to Iraq in March of 2003 to track down the culprits of the Casablanca bombing that month and destroy their infrastructure? Further, Zapatero has made it clear that the priority of his gov't is to go after al-Qaeda.

                          Not to say that Spain ought to withdraw from Iraq, just that claiming that "the terrorists win" is inane.
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                          • Originally posted by Ramo
                            Zapatero has made it clear that the priority of his gov't is to go after al-Qaeda.
                            It's clear that al-Qaeda is not his govts priority. While he said otherwise, his actions speak louder than his words.
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                            • The idea that al-Qaeda claims victory in Spain is completely abusurd.


                              Repeating that doesn't make it anymore true. Al Qaeda won a great victory in Spain, whether you wan't to admit it or not.
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                              • It's clear that al-Qaeda is not his govts priority. While he said otherwise, his actions speak louder than his words.
                                Which actions? He's not in power yet.

                                Repeating that doesn't make it anymore true. Al Qaeda won a great victory in Spain, whether you wan't to admit it or not.
                                Care to refute my explanation as to how it was not?
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