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  • what do you think of bush's congratulatory call to the socialist winner? especially in light of the fact that he didn't give schroeter the same courtesy?

    especially when this guy is about as against the war as schroeter was?
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    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Ugh... I don't like what the Spanish (new) PM is saying. Fact is, you can be against the war, but pulling out now will mostly likely hurt the IRAQIs more than the US! The US will look at everyone leaving, say screw this (at least some candidate will) and we'll pull out way before time, say we got Saddam, so we won and that's that.

      I wish both sides would put politics aside and not screw over a whole country because dick-waivers on both sides of the Atlantic would rather seem 'right' than actually help out.

      Yes, let's hope the "coalition of the willing" under the lead of the US turns the occupation of Iraq into a mission under UN flag and all "old Europe" will love to participate in resolving the difficult situation which really would become a mess if internat. forces pull out. But as the US said they needed no one to allow the attack I guess they don't need anyone to occupy either. As long as the US say that they did the dirty job and thus take the lead it seems perfectly OK for Spain to pull out and not wanting to be part of this.
      Again, I really hope that a UN force will replace the coalition forces. and don't envision a chaos in Iraq.
      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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      • it sounds awfully like a slight to me. rather deafeningly, too.
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        • Originally posted by Q Cubed
          japan, skorea, england, portugal, and tuvalu haven't been attacked yet.
          Japan and S. Korea hardly fit the profile of "crusader states."

          I think al Qaeda is waiting for elections to before it attacks. England hasn't had elections in a while.
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          • But what about all that UN corruption? Can we trust the UN?
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Why should he care how the Spanish vote? The more interesting question you could ask him would be to list the foreign leaders he keeps talking about.
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              • Originally posted by Q Cubed
                what do you think of bush's congratulatory call to the socialist winner? especially in light of the fact that he didn't give schroeter the same courtesy?

                especially when this guy is about as against the war as schroeter was?
                I think Bush is trying to pull this one out. He hasn't given up on Spain.
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                • Originally posted by Ned


                  Insufficient.

                  So, while we are at it, lets elect Kerry and repeal the Patriot Act to improve security.

                  Kerry, you can trust him to keep you safe.
                  If AQ succeeds, what does that tell you about the effectiveness of the Patriot Act under the hands of Bush?
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                  • Originally posted by Ned


                    Japan and S. Korea hardly fit the profile of "crusader states."
                    The South Koreans are sending 3,000 troops to Iraq I believe. And Japan sent some troops (which is unprecendented, but they are mostly for humanitarian/reconstruction though they are armed).
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • Originally posted by Q Cubed
                      terrorists will try to strike at anything.
                      they will only succeed where there is opportunity.

                      if another terrorist attack comes here to the states, it will not be because of a lack of effort on aq's part, but because of an unfortunate lapse in our vigilance. if france can defend itself with its secret police and what not, more power to them; if they are never attacked, they will have done their duty--and we will also never know how many times attempts were made.
                      Possibly.

                      But the events in Spain suggest a much more sophisticated strategy. Much more sophisticated.
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                      • Originally posted by Q Cubed
                        what do you think of bush's congratulatory call to the socialist winner? especially in light of the fact that he didn't give schroeter the same courtesy?

                        especially when this guy is about as against the war as schroeter was?
                        Spain is still in Iraq-why antagonize people needlessly? (I just know someone will jump on this)

                        The South Koreans are sending 3,000 troops to Iraq I believe. And Japan sent some troops (which is unprecendented, but they are mostly for humanitarian/reconstruction though they are armed).


                        I honestly can't see an AQ cell getting a foothold in either Japan or SK, simply becuase of their treatment of non-white foreigners-heck, of each other.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • Originally posted by GePap
                          Spain is still in Iraq-why antagonize people needlessly? (I just know someone will jump on this)
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                          • *hypnotic*
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • bush's slight towards germany is deafeaning in meaning. germany could have been at least as useful as the spaniards. or could it be that our boy bush is finally learning how useful friends and allies can be, along with decent diplomacy?

                              skorea has elections coming up later this year. as does america. and yet, i don't expect terrorist attacks at all. this is not to say we shouldn't be prepared, but to be in a sort of panic state about it, as you seem to be, ned, is rather silly. OMFG OMFG OMFG THERE WAS A BOMBING IN SPAIN RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTIONS SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE ONE TOO!!!!!!!

                              calm down. put your trust in our boys. we're not going to have an attack, because as odd as some suggestions might have been (duct tape and plastic sheets), or as blatantly useless as others are (huge machines in the airports), i think our defense will do just fine.

                              or do you not have faith in bush your Dear Leader?

                              now, one note. i don't see an attack in either of the east asian nations simply because they have absolutely tiny muslim populations, both are rather high-tech, and one has been in a seige mentality for years with experience in terrorism, while the other has had its share of terrorist attacks.
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                              • Originally posted by Giancarlo
                                But what about all that UN corruption? Can we trust the UN?
                                I thought you wanted to turn your back on Poly...
                                "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                                "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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