Heavy terr act in Madrid

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by Alfonso
the used explosive is of Spanish manufacture, eta does not use Spanish explosives.

Of course, they use Basque ones

This debate is esterile. The mere fact that we are discussing it probes that for some people there is one big difference between an Al-Qaeda attack and an ETA attack. They want to blame Aznar for it, which would not be true even if Al-Qaeda was involved in some degree.

[Winston]

If this is Al Qaeda's work, I fear Madrid may see more bombs in the days to come, perhaps already tomorrow. The method of operation would seem to resemble that of the synagogue bombings in Istanbul in November, and those were followed by more bombings less than a week later.

I sure hope the Spanish authorities are aware of this and taking their precautions as best they can.

[Bereta_Eder]

BTW I can't help but thinking... Turkey next door, now Spain... and at summer the Athens Olympics... Maybe I'm carried away but I do have a gut feeling that was Al Qaeda or something relevant to it. And they did it as "payback" for Spain government's support of the US/UK invasion to Iraq.

I find two things disquietning (to say the least)

_There was no warning. There was no red flags raised, nothing. Either by the US or the Interpol or the Europol or the Spanish agencies. It was a "shot" from nowhere.
Am I mistaken in this? I don't know I'm asking.

_Whoever did this, if it wasn't Eta, has no qualms of hitting Europe. True, it may "favor" those who supported the US but it is actually IMHO trying to split Europe the way the US has tried.

[Giancarlo]

The Spanish authorities have more preventive measures than many other countries in place for this. We been dealing with bombings for decades.

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by Alfonso
it is not rare that the ministry lies in Spain

It is not rare that some people say that everithing the ministry says in Spain are lies. I wonder what they would say if the minister stated that the Sun was shining.

[Bereta_Eder]

Oliver, I don't know virtually anything about the Eta or the IRA so I don't know how many they've killed or why.
I just find it unbelievable for people they live next door to other people (the same country) to attack and kill so many. It just doesn't click, but as I said I know next to nothing about them. They never killed so many people in one shot though from what I read. ABout people capable of doing something like this, oh yes, it is the real world allright.

[WRW]

Originally posted by OliverFA
Welcome to the real world. You have discovered the respect that ETA has for the life of people who don´t think like them. They have killed thousand of times before (or maybe it was also Al-Qaeda who did in their name?) I fail to see why you respect more the life if you kill just one person instead of 100 people.

This situation has to stop. Many foreign people still see ETA as some kind of heroes. They are nothing but assassins. They kidnapped a man (Miguel Angel Blanco) and asked the government for an impossible thing or they would kill him. Then they blamed the government for the death of that man. They have killed with cold blood and no feelings lots of people. Why the hell they are heroes? No! They are not heroes. They are assassins who menace good willing people who just want to live and let live. Like all the terrorists are. Even when terrorists pursue good will goals, (which is not the case) they are nothing else than assassins.

A very good explanation.

[MRT144]

Freedom Fighters or Terrorists?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Niessuh
Please, don't mix the position of Spain at the Iraq conflict with this. I can assure you that the majority of spanish are against that war. If they continue supporting our government is because the (supposed) good economic growth and prosperity

I didn't... I'm on the right side of the spectrum wrt the WoT. I was just pointing out that they need to focus on their interior terrorist problems.

[Giancarlo]

ETA = Terrorists. Freedom fighters? Really? How so? By blowing up trains with a bunch of innocent civilians on them?

Don't even dare label them any differently.

[Winston]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
The Spanish authorities have more preventive measures than many other countries in place for this. We been dealing with bombings for decades.

I'm aware of that, I merely pointed out that it is not a given thing that they are seriously reckoning with additional attacks in the days to come. Which they should be prepared for.

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
The Spanish authorities have more preventive measures than many other countries in place for this. We been dealing with bombings for decades.

Plus they were fearing something terrible for this election (in fact ETA has tried to act in every election, like when they almost killed Aznar when he was still not president). Police was ready, but it´s impossible to control everything.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by OliverFA


Plus they were fearing something terrible for this election (in fact ETA has tried to act in every election, like when they almost killed Aznar when he was still not president). Police was ready, but it´s impossible to control everything.

Yeah you can't have cops in every place at every time... the police however have rapid reaction and did manage to prevent some explosions.

[Bereta_Eder]

Speaking about Eta, how can they justify killing of inoccents when they are under no occupation, they live in on eof the richest parts of Spain etc? Were there wars or animocity between Basques and other Spanish?
I'm asking that because you said many people see them as heroes...

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by paiktis22
BTW I can't help but thinking... Turkey next door, now Spain... and at summer the Athens Olympics...

****, that's true... I hope they have REALLY tight security at the Olympic Games this summer