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  • #16
    Originally posted by lightblue


    It was actually a serious question. Simultaneous blasts seem more like a Al Qaeda M.O. (embassy bombings etc) than ETA. I agree that it is more likely to be the ETA due to the elections, but IIRC Spain was on the list of countries that Bin Laden said should be attacked by every Muslim after Afghanistan.
    I don't think this is Al Qaeda. It has too much to do with the elections.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      Yikes. I never thought the basques are capable to do something on this scale. Maybe it's really Al-Queda, simultanity and all that...
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      • #18
        Does ETA usually claim responsibility after attacks like the IRA or not?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by lightblue
          Does ETA usually claim responsibility after attacks like the IRA or not?
          Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

          They have done deadly attacks before. One in a grocery store in 1987, which killed 21.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Giancarlo
            We must track down who did this and execute them all on the spot. No trial.


            Yeah, we don't have to prove their guilt before executing them. But hey, I'm not fascist!
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            • #21
              Train networks aren't Al Queda's style...yet.

              Eta has apparently bombed trains before, and according to the article, two Eta terrorists last month transporting explosives for just such a plot.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #22
                85 dead!

                I think that's one of the worst attacks ever since Sept. 11.
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                  • #24
                    This is terrible

                    It's probably ETA. Who else could it be? (It could be al qaida, but you wouldn't think Spain is on the top of their list of targets.)
                    CSPA

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                    • #25
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo

                        In 1987, the set off a bomb that killed 21 in a supermarket. What makes you think they tip the general public off?
                        Therefore i said NORMALLY.
                        It could be that they've chosen just not to do it this time...
                        It could be that it's not ETA who is responsible. Nobody knows right now. And that includes you too.
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • #27
                          It could be that it's not ETA who is responsible. Nobody knows right now. And that includes you too.
                          We all know it

                          The spanish police have stopped two vans with explosives in the last weeks. At least one of them was destinated to madrid, and the Government told the objective was the railroad network. Believe me, Al-Queda has nothing to do with it.

                          Giancarlo, please stop your PP propaganda. People are dying right now, so please leave politics at a side by the moment.

                          I've put the Spanish Civilization Site in mourning.
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                          • #28
                            It is ETA, for sure, it follows its methods, their cruel calendar and its intentions. the cruelty has surpassed this time the imaginable limit. There is no doubt that the influence of other terrorist organizations has inspired this attack, together with the fact that ETA is desesperately finished every time more and more , its leaders are harassed by continuous police successes. This is the last acts of a band in disappearance. As for the answer, this will be luckily the less radical possible. Millions of people will pronounced in Madrid the next Sunday, the absolute majority of basques will show his repulses to the attack. The general elections will have a participation record. All institutions keep with their tasks, policy will continue breaking up the terrorist cupola time and time again.

                            One hundred and thirty four now....Atocha is the most crowded train station at Spain, all the radial lines ends here.
                            My family is from Alcala de Henares, They uses the exploded line. They are fine, fortunately. I use to take the line when I go on holidays. Nobody is safe, but this is not reason for isolation and blind revenge.
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                            • #29
                              That's nasty. Trains are really very vulnerable targets, like planes without the security.

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                              • #30
                                Maybe Spain should work on its own WoT before they try and help us in ours?

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