So how come black people call each other ******?

[Japher]

Blacks are disenfranchised because they are the other in this society.

What makes them "the other"? Because they have a different skin color? Yeah, right! Chinese, Japanese, Indians, etc. all have different skin tone, but do they get the same benefits from AA and othe quotas? No, because they are not "the other", so it can't be skin color... Hmmmm, lets think about this one a little further.

Could it be that they have this "gangsta" attitude towards their daily life (speaking about only those who use this N-word), or that this is how they are preceived?

Respect for a community begins with a community respecting themselves. Perhaps they do, but then why are many black dominant communities generally run down, drug filled, and full of violence? What kind of respect evolves from calling each other a word that my ancestors used as derogatory remark? What does that say? It says to me, a white male, that they have finally yielded to the opperssion that has been placed upon them over the hundreds of years that they were treated as though they where worth less than dirt!

Why not stick with "bother"? That was so much better.

In any society there will be a group that is labeled as different. That's the way it works.

So the blacks are going to relish in this difference despite the indifference? Also, I agree that this is the way it works. However, the chinese were once in the same position as the blacks were, why are the not in the same position that blacks are today? Could it be because they don't refer to themselves as chinks and demand respect, and actually move outside their cloistered communities and adapt?

That's the way it works. The fact that you ask me to not use a word that was good enough for my father in the way he used it is to say sell what little of your subculture you have left.

I am Dutch (more than 3/4 dutch), do you really want me to use the language of the slave trade? Than why do you?! My subculture is gone, why? BEcause I have accepted that things have changed, and I am not relishing on things that happened over a hundred years ago.

It's like asking a chinese american to stop speaking chinese.

Really, how many Bantu languages do black people know? How many black ppl even know what bantu is? I have raised the discussion of language as cultural influence many times, and honestly, I have never gotten a debate out of it so I am at a lost. Yet, I never hear a chinesse person use words to demean themsleves as it would relate to me... And I live in an asian community.,

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[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus
Rudyard Kipling says that it is. He says that the white man is needed to rule the world.

And?

[David Floyd]

Rudyard Kipling says that it is. He says that the white man is needed to rule the world.

Sorry, I'm confused. Are you being a smartass, or is that an actual argument?

[Verto]

Originally posted by Pax Africanus
Rudyard Kipling says that it is. He says that the white man is needed to rule the world.

Kipling's personal opinion has little bearing on reality. Europeans are not the ones responsible for slavery in Africa, nor in North America. In both places, it existed prior to their coming.

[Japher]

Can I ask the audience?

Cali, you know I'll agree with you on this.

Black ppl's opinions are ussually based out of anger (and rightfully so) and this leads to them being more racist than the average white person who is not from Idaho.... IMO, chinesse are the most racist of all nationalities in my area... The least; whites and vietnamesse

[PLATO]

I am so disappointed in what so many have said in this thread

[David Floyd]

By the way:

WARNING: JOINT PWNING IN PROGRESS. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK.

[Japher]

Care to elaborate PLATO?

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Japher


Cali, you know I'll agree with you on this.

Black ppl's opinions are ussually based out of anger (and rightfully so) and this leads to them being more racist than the average white person who is not from Idaho.... IMO, chinesse are the most racist of all nationalities in my area... The least; whites and vietnamesse

I think whites are the least racist. Can you name any other race that had accepted so many other races into it's midst?

[Shogun Gunner]

Polynesians

[Japher]

Acceptance, Cali, is a two way street...

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Japher
Acceptance, Cali, is a two way street...

Those who moved to white countries are not representative of their race in this matter because they are a self-selecting sample. They are likely more accepting people than those in their home country.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Caligastia


I think whites are the least racist. Can you name any other race that had accepted so many other races into it's midst?

Sig material. It it just so...classic.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Caligastia

Those that were sold into slavery were slaves already. Slavery did exist in Africa before the white man came you know.

Really? Thanks for enlightening me I didn't know that. And it existed before then, when the arabs bought africans and europeans for slaves in North Africa (in fact, they bought so many slavs that that's where we get the name 'slave' from), and in China, I think the Bible mentions something about it too... and it still exists today.

But since NONE of you actually read my post I'll say it again: the level of trade would not have been as large. I'm NOT saying that blacks are blameless, I'm saying that white's bear MORE, not ALL, of the responsibility. And seeing as America was responsible for every black slave that came to the U.S., and seeing as we're talking about an issue of race in America, the point is valid.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
Polynesians

Nope.