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Originally posted by Whoha
yet we are all forced to pay into it.
yet we are all forced to pay into it.
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I don't get your reasoning. Are yousaying that only poor people should pay into anti-poverty programs?“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
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Not all of us. People on unemployment and welfare don't have to pay it.Originally posted by Whoha
yet we are all forced to pay into it.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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the solution is to call it a welfare program, kick off everyone that is solvent(they still have to pay for it though), and either remove the cap or raise other taxes.
Or cut spending.Comment
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then call it welfare, not "social security".Originally posted by pchang
I don't get your reasoning. Are yousaying that only poor people should pay into anti-poverty programs?Comment
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Now you're getting it
They called it social security in the first place to get it to pass.Originally posted by Whoha
then call it welfare, not "social security".“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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--"Wraith siting!!!!"
I'm around. Just read the anime threads.
--"There are lots of things they can do to save SS, but cutting benefits across the board for future retirees is NOT one of them."
No. It's a Ponzi scheme. They always fall apart, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. It's just how the numbers work out.
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yes, finally progress towards freedom. i dont mind if theres a Social security fund, as long as i can opt out of it."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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I know that's a staple of libertarian philosphy, but it's also incorrect, like so many other aspects of that "philosophy."Originally posted by Wraith
No. It's a Ponzi scheme. They always fall apart, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. It's just how the numbers work out.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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You shouldn't be allowed to opt out any more than you can opt out of any other tax,Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
i dont mind if theres a Social security fund, as long as i can opt out of it.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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fine. in that case, it should be elimintated. haha.You shouldn't be allowed to opt out any more than you can opt out of any other tax,"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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What about they cut military spendings first, and then cease any military help program to non-democratic governments?
When that's done, they cut on SS if they still need to.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Hmm. Cut the military to the bone? No thanks, I don't speak Chinese.Originally posted by Oncle Boris
What about they cut military spendings first, and then cease any military help program to non-democratic governments?
When that's done, they cut on SS if they still need to."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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we'll you're gonna
but please, we have nukes. if it ever came down to us losing, we'd launch them all and you know it. we can cut a lot of out military spending."Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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Adam Smith:But there is a maximum to what anybody can get back... so that's why there is a ceiling. What's not fair is asking for even more money from some people only to give them the same amount as people paying in less.
What would happen if you lowered the payouts, to what would be needed for a person to live comfortably on their income in their retirement, but no more?
Put a cap on the other end, so that those who want to get more benefits, can enter a private program. Would this work?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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