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Any more than historians or science will ever prove that Mohammad was handed the Koran already in written form by an angel sent down from heaven riding a horse
Agreed as well.
Do they have pot in the Middle East by any chance?
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Agreed as well.
Do they have pot in the Middle East by any chance?
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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You also need to take into account that for the reasons mentioned above the ancients were much better than us at formulating, remembering and recounting stories and important information in order that it could be passed around by word of mouth and passed down to the next generation.Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
You also have to take into account the expense and scarcity of paper, and the relative dearth of people able to write. Then again there is the fragility of ancient paper. The ancients didn;t know enough to impregante their paper with toxic chemicals so that the paper wouldn't break down for thousands of years. Stupid Ancients!
You can still see this kind of practice at work in traditional societies where elders memorise and recount sometimes extraordinarily long stories and geneologies. They can recount them perfectly word for word.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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Something derived from poppies would have been more likely in this case...Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Any more than historians or science will ever prove that Mohammad was handed the Koran already in written form by an angel sent down from heaven riding a horse
Agreed as well.
Do they have pot in the Middle East by any chance?
jon.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~Comment
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Ah, yes that would work as well.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Divine sovereignty was around a while before, and a long time after, this event. Perhaps these revolutionaries figured out the trick: don't attack Rome, you'll never take them over by force... make a plan to take them over by subverting their belief in their gods, which they were essentially flexible about... after all... they did just borrow the Greek gods.
The ultimate confidence trick of all time?Comment
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Hmmm... Where are we... Tonight I saw it. Packed theater.
The movie was interesting. It won't make any sense for those who didn't hear the passion story every Easter. No background is given at all. It won't be a good tool for evangelization. More like good for renewal of faith already held.
Re the violence, I guess I'm desensitized to it. However, there was one scene that made me wince...
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I teared up when...
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Overall, this is not your typical movie because nothing was explained and the plot was necessarily disjointed. It's like the film just started rolling on the stations of the cross, except this time for "real". It wasn't particularly enjoying, but I think it's going to go down as an important work.Last edited by DanS; February 27, 2004, 03:47.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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And another thing, Satan in this movie is totally creepy. In a sense beautiful, but also totally perverse. I've never seen Satan personified, so I don't have any comparisons. But this was a highlight of the film.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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satan is in it?
now I have to see it.
I love satan.Comment
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If any of you Christians could possibly travel back to the ancient world, I think you would find early Christianity not much to your taste.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Diss: Demon children are in it too! Though they don't get the screen time that good ol' Beelzebub gets.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Why do you say that Agathon?Comment
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Because the supernatural was a lot closer for ancient people than it is now. And I think the Jews of the time would have found Protestantism to be ridiculous and the sexual puritanism of later Christianity to be loony.
The claim that people are now practising the exact same religion as Jesus did is pretty unlikely.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Judaism changed that much?
(Well, excluding the reformed, etc.)I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Agathon,
however the Jewish culture of that time was very puritanical and conservative. It is now compared as the other opposite end of the hedonistic and free (and more materialistic) Greek culture of that time.
In a way today we are all Jews. We have grown up inside their culture (of old).Comment
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Clarification: when I say "all" I mean those grown up in christian environments.Comment
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