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  • Originally posted by Smiley
    Now why can't we have a "Two Palestines" approach in the Middle East?
    Because the Pals won't play.





    BTW, has anyone given thought to the fact that Taiwan is one of the leading developers of fusion power? It would seem to follow that they just might have a few suprises in store for the PRC armed forces if it came to invasion.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • because one of them's called Israel.
      urgh.NSFW

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      • It only take one hight yeild Themonuclear Fission-Fusion-Fission bomb to explose at than certain hight attitude in the center of the USA to created than EMP strong enought with than enought energy for than long enought length of time to burn out all computer chips, electronic control equipment, powerline melting, power generate being burn out within than 2500 miles radius. Wallstreet will be unable to do bussien as all computer record would have being fry, Banks in america would have being close drown as electron tranfer of fund being impossible and with all computer banking record destory by the EMP. So it will only take one warhead to destory the entire America ecomocy plus the Canada, Mexico ecomony to boot.
        By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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        • Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
          It only take one hight yeild Themonuclear Fission-Fusion-Fission bomb to explose at than certain hight attitude in the center of the USA to created than EMP strong enought with than enought energy for than long enought length of time to burn out all computer chips, electronic control equipment, powerline melting, power generate being burn out within than 2500 miles radius. Wallstreet will be unable to do bussien as all computer record would have being fry, Banks in america would have being close drown as electron tranfer of fund being impossible and with all computer banking record destory by the EMP. So it will only take one warhead to destory the entire America ecomocy plus the Canada, Mexico ecomony to boot.
          I'll have to check the science, but that absolutely strikes me as complete bull****. It might be able to fry satelites, but the emp required to fry even electronics turned off at the time is enough to do series damage to people with its radiation as well. A single nuke isn't that powerful.

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          • it would only fry the immediate area around it(10-15? mile radius), hence the whole point of the internet.

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            • Originally posted by Mordoch

              I'll have to check the science, but that absolutely strikes me as complete bull****. It might be able to fry satelites, but the emp required to fry even electronics turned off at the time is enough to do series damage to people with its radiation as well. A single nuke isn't that powerful.
              When we test our first H-bomb on Bikin Island in the South Pacfic the EMP set off every burgalar alarm in Hawaii Islands. In fact the nations that make hight yeild H-bomb's find away to enfance the EMP to make it stronger. All explosive have than EMP effect but is is very weak, short lives, and short range. Any Sun gemate than EMP effect also. That why in the modern world they donot do hight yield H-bomb test anymore.
              Only vaccum tude electronic is immuse to EMP effect.
              By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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              • Originally posted by Verto
                We took nothing from anyone, and gave something to everyone.
                That something being missiles and bullets! But hey!

                J/K

                Due to China's growing economy, war is the last thing they will want - unless provoked.

                It disturbs me that some Westerners seem to relish such a war.

                Must be something in the water...
                Last edited by curtsibling; February 16, 2004, 18:26.
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                • Originally posted by PLATO
                  BTW, has anyone given thought to the fact that Taiwan is one of the leading developers of fusion power? It would seem to follow that they just might have a few suprises in store for the PRC armed forces if it came to invasion.
                  There's a bit of dispute about that angle, but Taiwan does appear to have developed a weapon that's going to seriously complicate a Chinese naval invasion.
                  Taiwan is now introducing the new Hsiung Feng 3, which appears to be a different beast from its predecessors, with Mach 2 speed and much greater range. Once again, details are sketchy, though press releases indicate that it can be vertically launched from shipboard "silo" tube.


                  A anti-shipping missile flying at over mach 2 is going to be very difficult for Chinese naval anti-aircraft defense systems to deal with. Furthermore, the missiles don't need to destroy the Chinese warships, just the transports with their men inside. If Taiwan is capable of sinking a large number of transports, China is going to need an even more massive sealift capability to have a chance at pulling off a sucessful invasion.
                  Last edited by Mordoch; February 16, 2004, 19:40.

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                  • Yes, Bush is so committed to freedom and democracy that he does not support a democratic country declaring itself to be free of the control of a "communist" country.

                    PRC has no need to invade Taiwan.

                    Just like USA had no need to invade Canada.

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                    • Originally posted by The Mad Viking
                      Just like USA had no need to invade Canada.

                      You do have oil and a disturbing tendency to ship your musical crap down here.
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                      • Yea, and that damn artic front always traveling across Wisconsin.
                        Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

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                        • Some things that most people seem to agree on

                          1. Barring complete suprise ( unlikely given the sea transports required), US naval and airpower should be sufficient to stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan-- Heck Taiwanese forces might be sufficient unless China missile barrages them to heck and back first

                          2. Invading China is not on.

                          3. IN a nuke war the US could "win' but the reality is that China could be nuked practically out of existence so the MADD principle should apply. Damage to the US would be significant.


                          I agree with the poster that seemed to think the status quo is working ok for all the parties and ANYONE upsetting the status quo could bring negative consequences. I don't see this war happening anytime soon. Looking at the costs and possible benefits the Chinese might be better served to consider taking some natural resources from Russia or pressing their claims to some disputed offshore islands that don't serve as hot buttons for US interests
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                          • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            You do have oil and a disturbing tendency to ship your musical crap down here.
                            Also we have infiltrated your media .. . The US public won't know what to think when the Canadians make subtle alterations to various news reports.

                            Seriously though-- why would the US ever invade Canada?-- you have already purchased the country as far as I can tell.
                            You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                            • If the war goes nuclear, the US can kiss its number 1 superpower status goodbye. Islamists would be celebrating Casablanca to Jakarta for months, and us survivors would be subject to the whims of the Berlin-Paris-Moscow axis.

                              Is that what you want, you warmongering freaks?

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                              • Kiss our #1 Superpower rating?
                                Not in your lifetime or mine, even if we declared war on China, North Vietnam and Iran at the same time.
                                The US will never be short of firepower, that is what separates up from the rest.
                                Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

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