Is China Preparing for War?

[Frozzy]

Article V of the NATO alliance would be invoked if China attacked the US. There is no way out for Europe if that happened.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by skywalker
That wouldn't work. A war requires TWO armies

[Nubclear]

Yes there is.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Frozzy
Article V of the NATO alliance would be invoked if China attacked the US. There is no way out for Europe if that happened.

A Chinese attack on Taiwan with a US response would not invoke the NATO treaty. Interestingly, the 9/11 attack did. Also interestingly, German troops are preparing for fairly large scale ops in Afghanistan.

Now should China directly attack US forces in preemptive strike associated with Taiwan attack then NATO could be called into action. Probably would have no real difference as their role in the type of conflict that it would be would be support...which we would probably get eithier way.

[Kuciwalker]

Would a Chinese attack on a Taiwan defended partially by the US military invoke NATO? (I doubt it would matter though - if the US is mobilizing, something bad enough to get Europe in on our side must have happened.)

[PLATO]

Originally posted by skywalker
Would a Chinese attack on a Taiwan defended partially by the US military invoke NATO? (I doubt it would matter though - if the US is mobilizing, something bad enough to get Europe in on our side must have happened.)

No. US forces based on or around Taiwan would be considered forward deployed and not part of the defense structure of US. Now say China decided to hit US fleet at its base before or in concert with Taiwan strike, then NATO could be called into play.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by PLATO
BTW, has anyone given thought to the fact that Taiwan is one of the leading developers of fusion power? It would seem to follow that they just might have a few suprises in store for the PRC armed forces if it came to invasion.

If they have something along those lines, they will be selling them to the US, not buying military hardware.

[Tingkai]

Knowing the Taiwanese, if they had fusion weapons, they'd sell it to the PRC.

[Drake Tungsten]

Knowing the Taiwanese, if they had fusion weapons, they'd sell it to the PRC.

Knowing the PRC, they would then give the plans for said fusion weapons to Pakistan, Libya, etc...

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Knowing the Taiwanese, if they had fusion weapons, they'd sell it to the PRC.

Knowing the PRC, they would then give the plans for said fusion weapons to Pakistan, Libya, etc...

Give the plans away? Never. They'd sell the plans for a tidy profit, thank you very much.

Of course, knowing the Americans, the US would respond by invading Iran.

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Frozzy
Article V of the NATO alliance would be invoked if China attacked the US. There is no way out for Europe if that happened.

There is no rule that state they must help us out it if mean they will be destory by than nuclear exchange.

It I was than Knight with 10 men at arm and my liege lord was under attack an I arrive at near his castle than a 100,000 men are attacking I donot have to be suideabilty to attack 100,000 man with my tiny force and I can go home with my oath fullfill as I did try to help but was unable to.

France, Germany,Italy and other NATO countries donot have to imvole thenself in a war between China and America.

[CharlesBHoff]

It also than history fact that when the Truk took Contip from the Eastern Rome Empire in 1453 Eupore stood by without offering any help at all,.

[Drake Tungsten]

Give the plans away? Never. They'd sell the plans for a tidy profit, thank you very much.

You must not be reading your news...

Of course, knowing the Americans, the US would respond by invading Iran.

Odds are that much of the technology for Iran's nuclear program originally came from China, as well. It's really too bad we can't just deal with the source of all this proliferation.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
That is not going to happen in the case of a PRC attack on Taiwan.

Right now the US military is having a severe problem - mainly in $ - dealing with Iraq. Besides, how many carrier battlegroups were used?

Did you think that Bush was kidding when we had the standoff over your pilot crashing into our spy plane? Or how about Clinton when he deployed a carrier group after China had its tantrum over real democracy in Taiwan?

You are sadly mistaken if you don't think the U.S. will fight to protect Taiwan, and I hope your leaders have more sense than you do regarding what we would do. We aren't using much of our navy right now, as they aren't much use to us in Iraq or Afghanistan. We can shut down every bit of your coast with submarines, and can destroy much more of your urban base than you can of ours in either conventional or nuclear conflict.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Everybody will be launching nuclear missiles at the US if the US even contemplates in making such a thread, Floyd. Better to get rid of a madman first.

The threat is already made simply by anyone looking at the relative strengths of our arsenals. You are delusional beyond belief if you think anyone is going to come to China's aid in a nuclear war with the U.S. This has to be a troll.