California voters: Do you support prop 57 and 58?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia


sure. you support the war in iraq, you're against abortion, you're for social security, against immigration, for the death penalty, against gay marriage, against polygamy, against incest, for the drug war, against legalization of all drugs, for the patriot act, and you support bush, one of the biggest liberty takers of them all.

Lawrence, obviously you are talking about a left wing caraciture of a right wing person.

You are not talking about me as I do not share even half of the opinions you say I have.

Now, think of the pickle you have just put yourself in.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

not really. iwasnt sure of your positions, so i just named off a bunch. obviously since you havnt responded, some of them are correct. you might not share half the opinions i say you have, but you share the other ones.

[Ned]

Well Lawrence, I never said I was a pure libertarian. I just valued Liberty the most, more than "equality" for example.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

those who are willing to compromise liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security. - the guy on your $100 bill.

[Ned]

Lawrence, what are you talking about?

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Ned
Lawrence, what are you talking about?

He is talking about Ben Franklin. What he mean if people are willing to give up their liberity for absolute safely deverset neither.

[CharlesBHoff]

That law of the Church was so varsely word that if would mean what ever you want it to. This is why anti-homosexual people and solony law lover love this. That why in all fairing the Pope wrote back to the High Court that he didnot understand the law and what it meanth to do.

[Japher]

I voted yes on both of the threads initial issues, and no on 56 if anyone cares... This thread has gotten too long for it's own good.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

https://www.sdvote.com

went to vote today. looks like 56 and 57 passed unfortunatly. no info on sd county props yet. Jim Gray wins libertarian primary for US senate by 400 votes (yay i voted for him.) kerry takes it handily. i recieved one vote for president. (funny, i didnt see my name up there)

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by rev


I'm just turning the tables around, trying to put things in perspective. In my opinion, it's not weak at ALL (especially compared to those who are in denial and DON'T know where they want to take it ). I think you should be able to do whatever you want.

But there are many who view homosexuality as a disease, or a blight on humanity, just as you view drug use. In my opinion, it shouldn't even be up for debate -- government shouldn't be looking behind closed doors unless there's a victim.

There's actually a difference - homosexual sex is not inherently harmful or addictive (at least no more so than heterosexual sex).

[Ted Striker]

What's up with the gay posts

we know skywalker isn't gay he is a True Player and President of Young Players Club at his school

Anyway as was stated both props passed today overwhelmingly.

$15 billion in bonds, now Cali has some breathing room financially until the next big boom happens. (My prediction is 2006, one year earlier than the boom of last decade).

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

https://www.sdvote.com

went to vote today. looks like 56 and 57 passed unfortunatly. no info on sd county props yet. Jim Gray wins libertarian primary for US senate by 400 votes (yay i voted for him.) kerry takes it handily. i recieved one vote for president. (funny, i didnt see my name up there)

No and no.

57 and 58 passed. As did 55.

http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/00.htm

56 was defeated in a landslide.

I consider this a little moral victory over those who argued against me on 57 and 58. Especially you Lawrence.

[POTUS]

What's moral in it, the election had nothing to do with morals.

Unless you mean morale, in which case, you can't spell.

[Giancarlo]

Hey it was a simple typo. Take it easy man. It doesn't mean you have to lash out like a total brat like that.