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  • #31
    Originally posted by Richelieu




    I used to be against the death penalty. Life has taken care of that.
    Obviously not enough of it. It doesn't work, is massively inefficient, and kills innocent people. What's not to like?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


      Actually, what I have in mind for these types is more along the lines of Chiricahua or Mescalero Apache savagery.

      Medieval Europeans were such pussies.
      Thank you for proving why civilized societies no longer employ the death penalty.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by SlowwHand
        Soooooo....who's for the death penalty?
        Because the Death Penalty works.

        Notice how these killers avoid Texas like the plague.

        The case in this thread is a perfectly good example of WHY THE DEATH PENALTY IS A GOOD IDEA.

        Why is it most people don't rob banks?

        Is it because they think its wrong? NO.

        They don't rob banks because they don't want to go to jail. How do we know this? Because most people upon discovering a bank error in their favor of $6000 won't say squat to the bank. They may not spend the money, but they usually won't say anything to the bank.

        The rationale is they didn't do anything wrong. The bank did. The only difference between this and robbing the bank of $6000 is that they don't think there's any chance of them going to jail.

        It is the concept and knowledge that they will be punished for their actions they keeps them from doing a bad deed.

        "But we can send the bad child molesting murders to time out jail and that is punishment enough to keep them from committing horrible acts of pain."

        Bull****. Most of these people have been to jail before. Some of them grew up there. Its their home. It where they go for Thanksgiving. A threat of sending them to jail means as much to them as threatening a common person with sending them to Burger King.

        But Death. That's somewhere they ain't been before. That is a threat many of the hardened criminals take seriously.



        This guy most likely raped this little girl.

        What was he facing if caught? Jailtime.

        If he killed her and she couldn't tell anyone where would that leave him?
        Upside: a better chance of getting away with it.
        Downside: nothing. He worst penality is still jailtime.

        With a Death Penalty there would have been a downside to killing the little girl. His choice would have been Jailtime or Death Chamber. It might have made the difference.
        Last edited by GhengisFarb™; February 6, 2004, 22:10.

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        • #34
          GF - it doesn't work. Countries that don't have the death penalty have much lower rates of this sort of crime. Canada is an example.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Agathon


            Really? List all the good things about the death penalty, other than that a lot of people get a perverted thrill out of it.
            Well it seems to cheese you off a bit. Thats always a good thing.
            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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            • #36
              And if anyone, I mean anyone tried anything like that to my daughter. MY entire existance would be to hunt that person down and slowly exact every ounce of pain I could from his wretched body before he expired.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #37
                True, and I didn't even mention the perverted thrill benefits.

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                • #38
                  Countries that don't have the death penalty have much lower rates of this sort of crime.


                  Perhaps those who had less crime realized they did not need the death penalty as countries with more crime did. Or perhaps, causation does not equal correlation. Does ANYONE think that if we eliminate the death penalty our crime rates would be less?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Agathon
                    Countries that don't have the death penalty have much lower rates of this sort of crime. Canada is an example.
                    Because they didn't get rid of the Death Penalty until they had killed all the genetically defective serial killers from their Gene Pool.

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                    • #40
                      Because the Death Penalty works.
                      Really? Is that why for the past 20+ years we (California) has been paying for a death row inmate to wait for his execution? To go through appeals and tape cutting... He is do to die soon, and I hope they finally do it... Quick speedy trial my arse!

                      At least Arnie won't stop it

                      As for this Florida thingy, I hope this was the guy that was following Che around a while ago killing everyone in his wake...
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #41
                        Which part of the Death Penalty concept does your state not understand?

                        Once convicted, you KILL them.

                        Death by Old Age does not count as a Death Penalty.

                        While we're at it, another clarification for California:

                        1) Electricity comes from Power Plants, its not generated by "static leprachauns" running around in your walls.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by GePap
                          At least twice a year we get a story like this- there is always some child being murdered..

                          at this point it amazes me the same level of emotion comes up each time we go over this again and again
                          The day we all become desensitized to this is a sorrowful day in the history of humanity.
                          Who is Barinthus?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            Countries that don't have the death penalty have much lower rates of this sort of crime.


                            Perhaps those who had less crime realized they did not need the death penalty as countries with more crime did. Or perhaps, causation does not equal correlation. Does ANYONE think that if we eliminate the death penalty our crime rates would be less?
                            Do you think the average crack dealer or gang member who has a life expectancy of a couple of years really worries that 15-20 years down the track he might be executed by lethal injection? And serial killers are not going to be stopped by any threat.

                            Anyway, what about the innocent? There are in all likelihood innocent people on death row. I suppose you think it is OK that they be sacrificed for a policy that has no demonstrable effect on crime rates?
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                            • #44
                              Kill him, sure. Why? Because then he'll be dead. We shouldn't keep such evil people around. Given the chance I would kill the guy myself, no qualms.
                              Long time member @ Apolyton
                              Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                              • #45
                                Deterrence:

                                The Death Penalty Information Center (DPI) is a national non-profit organization whose mission is to serve the media, policymakers, and the general public…


                                All you right wingers are so full of crap. Why don't you just admit that you like killing people?
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