new capitalism vs communism thread

[Kuciwalker]

Ned, don't make completely unsupported statements. Use at least a LITTLE logic to back it up.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Our definition is a priori, before the fact. Your redefinition is after the fact. In other words, we said, this is what socialism would look like. Then some people tried to establish it. They didn't get it right. You are taking an established system, and saying it doesn't meet the rules you came up with after it already existed.

Now, I think there's a very valid argument to be made that a priori definitons aren't good measures, and that what came into being is closer to real socialism than what we thought it should be. Marx warned against this himself.

Then I'll say it again: I'm arguing for schmooism, ok? Forget all of the capitalism stuff.

[Az]

don't feed the troll, skywalker.

[Ned]

Skywalker, if you need help on this, well....

[Az]

a real discussion?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by skywalker
Then I'll say it again: I'm arguing for schmooism, ok? Forget all of the capitalism stuff.

What you are arguing for is laizze-faire capitalism, i.e., a particular way of managing capitalism.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Azazel
a real discussion?

One should really discuss just how communists can fool most of the people most of the time.

[Az]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


What you are arguing for is laizze-faire capitalism, i.e., a particular way of managing capitalism.

Let's argue against this. It's no use to argue about the "bad" capitalism. Skywalker would agree that this would be wrong. So you'd be bursting into an open door.

The real question is, what does skywalker intend to do against corporations in his country using slave labour in ANOTHER country?

does he think something must be done?

[Az]

Originally posted by Ned


One should really discuss just how communists can fool most of the people most of the time.

didn't think so.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned


One should really discuss just how communists can fool most of the people most of the time.

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
Sponge bob square pants!

[Kuciwalker]

The real question is, what does skywalker intend to do against corporations in his country using slave labour in ANOTHER country?

That assumes that the economy isn't schmooist, but rather that parts of it are schmooist and others have slavery and stuff.

[Az]

exactly. So several transnationals are based in YOUR shmooist economy, what do you do about them being *******s in other countries?

[chequita guevara]

The shmoo is a communist.

[Kuciwalker]

Did you read what I posted? You are assuming that part of the economy is not schmooist.

[The Andy-Man]

this is gonna go on all night, i can tell