new capitalism vs communism thread

[Ned]

On vacation to American, one day Karl Marx asked a Southern slave owner to describe the enconomic conditions of a slave. The Southerner replied,

"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need."

And the rest is history.

[Az]

That's brilliant, Ned. did you think of it yourself?

[Provost Harrison]

Get real Az

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned
On vacation to American, one day Karl Marx asked a Southern slave owner to describe the enconomic conditions of a slave. The Southerner replied,

"From each according to his ability. To each according to his need."

And the rest is history.

I've read a biography of Karl Marx, and I almost swear that he has never been to America. I could be wrong. Anyone know this?

[Provost Harrison]

It's true Tripledoc! Ben said so!

[Az]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Get real Az

Arghh! commie POS!

[Provost Harrison]

Got a problem with that

[Az]

no, actually.

[Ned]

You know, what you commies are talking about here seem more like what I understand to be the philosophy of Students for a Demcocatic Society. Communism, at least Marx's communism, required state ownership of the means of production. Thus all prior examples had this feature.

But SDS's seem to believe in common property and democratic decision making at the lowest levels.

BTW, the Roman Army was in a way the prototype army of your discussion. It decided by units who was to be their commander - thier Imperator. Ultimately, this Army, and not the people, determined all affairs of the Empire.

[curtsibling]

The main thing about commie students is that few of them are willing to do a day's work.

That is where the West and it's emphasis commerce actually works.

People work to better their lives.

In communism, people work to the end of their lives.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by Ned
BTW, the Roman Army was in a way the prototype army of your discussion. It decided by units who was to be their commander - thier Imperator. Ultimately, this Army, and not the people, determined all affairs of the Empire.

Yes but that was when the Roman Empire was in decline, when the Republic was so corrupt, it had seized to exist. At that point the Roman Army was no longer a people's army. It was a band of mercenaries from near and afar who had not a single red drop of patriotism in their veins.

A communist army is a people's army motivated by patriotism to defend the homeland.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by curtsibling
The main thing about commie students is that few of them are willing to do a day's work.

Why should Communists work to uphold the Capitalist order?

The main weapon of the working class is the strike. The communist considers himself in a perpetual state of strike until the Capitalists have realized their folly.

[Az]

Why should Communists work to uphold the Capitalist order?

Now that's a load of crap.

[Ned]

Tripledoc, some would say that the Roman Army control of society caused the decline.

[Tripledoc]

Did you know that in Europe alone 100.000 workers, and possibly their families too, are going to die, because they were told asbestos is a safe building material.

Asbestos is so dangerous that when the women washed their men's working clothes, the micro fibres would get into their lungs too.