Texas pharmacist refuses pill for rape victim

[Ben Kenobi]

How long has the morning after pill been in existence? This fellow could have been a pharmacist long before the drug became available.

[Ben Kenobi]

I have now put you on ignore.

That is your right.

[Unspeakable Horror]

Ben

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
How long has the morning after pill been in existence? This fellow could have been a pharmacist long before the drug became available.

IT DOES NOT MATTER. By law, as a licensed pharmacist, he must fill any legal doctors prescription if he has those drugs on hand. If this issue mattered so much to him, the second Eckhart begun to stock the drugs, he should have quit and tied to find some chain that did not. That would have been his conscience acting up.

Is that too difficult for you to understand? Do we need to draw crayon pictures?

[Ben Kenobi]

Why don't you try having this discussion with some actual rape victims?

So I am required to consult rape victims before I post an article on Apolyton?

While I could not be a rape counsellor, being a man and all, I would certainly do a different approach. Show them the humanity of the child they carry.

[Ben Kenobi]

By law, as a licensed pharmacist, he must fill any legal doctors prescription if he has those drugs on hand. If this issue mattered so much to him, the second Eckhart begun to stock the drugs, he should have quit and tied to find some chain that did not. That would have been his conscience acting up.

And how do we know that this is not the case? We need another piece of evidence, how long this pharmacist has worked there, whether he has ever faced this situation before, that sort of thing.

[DRoseDARs]

@ the pharmacist AND ben.

[Ben Kenobi]

Emperor Fabulous & lightblue:

You can't understand because you are NOT a woman.

Are you female by any chance?

Do you want to have the baby of a man who raped you?

Why should the baby be killed for the crimes of his father? It won't hurt the rapist.

Edit: same point for lightblue.

Further more, the morning after pill is a lot less harsh for a woman than an abortion, and if all the pharmacists had "moral issues" with giving the pill, THAT'S what she'd get.

Different methods, same result.

[Ramo]

He should've been fired.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Imran is always available, when it comes to defend to right to be a scumbag.

And to him!

[Kuciwalker]

Now, compare this to our example. A Catholic, who dispenses the morning after pill, would consider themselves to be an accessory to murder. True, the pill may not cause an abortion, but the purpose of the pill is to prevent the implantation of the unborn child. There is no other purpose for the drug. That to me should seem considerably different grounds than even my own contraceptive example to allow for freedom of conscience.

So he DOESN'T WORK THERE, MORON.

[Whaleboy]

Ben

Go sleep

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Verto


And you are always available, when it comes to defend the right to be an idiot.

A tendency I have noticed from Imran, is to defend Corporate/property/business rights over humanist issues. He usually plays the devil's advocate, using legal arguments when it suits him, and moral ones when the law is not friendly towards his stance.

That does not mean I disagree with him in this particular case.

I don't see the idiocy point. I usually try to have reasonable and factual opinions, much more than some in these forums. And seriously, Verto, you don't shine amongst the Philosophical Intelligence of Poly OT.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


And how do we know that this is not the case? We need another piece of evidence, how long this pharmacist has worked there, whether he has ever faced this situation before, that sort of thing.

No we don't.

If he, for some strange reason did not know these drugs were now in inventory (which seems highly unlikely), what he should have done as a moral man (if he were one) was :
1. see if anyone else could attend the woman
2. If not, done his job, as he was supposed to by LAWE and the contracts he entered into with his employer
3. The quit his job.

Anything else are the actions of a bigot.

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Yes, I mean your first example and not the second. I'm not an ogre after all.

Is such a requirement constitutional, because it effectively bars Catholics in particular from working as pharmacists without a violation to their conscience.

It absolutely is since you have no constitutional right to employment. To take this to absured lengths, could planned parenthood not require doctors it hires to perform abortions and you'd end up with doctors that refuse to perform abortions at all due to their concience working at abortion clinics?

Clearly "your personal concience" is no always an acceptable reason to deny medical care. Should the pharmacist deny pain killers to someone with a prescription after making the personal decision that the customer did something stupid and deserves to suffer some pain? Should someone who believes that epilepsy is God's punishment for sinners refuse to dispense medication to treat someone suffering from it? (This actually was a fairly common belief some time ago in the US.)

In rural areas, there may be only one pharmacy for a large distance, putting enourmous inconvenience on an individual if denied medication at one. If all the pharmacists in a rural area got together and agreed to not provide a medications, this could effectively deny people in the area acess to this medication at all.

Finally, its the DOCTOR who is expected to make any ethical judgement before writting a prescription. The Pharmacists job is simply after double checking to make sure the patient doesn't have any allergies or is taking other medications that will interact in a harmful way with the new one, the pharmacists simply makes sure the customer receives the right medication in the right dosage. A pharmacist is stepping well outside the bounds of his jobs by making moral judgements of his customers and therefore to whom he will dispense medication to.