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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
    So abortion is nothing more than a form of birth control?
    No, but abortion is birth control (controlling birth...), among other things.

    Things can fit into multiple categories, you know

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    • #77
      You still have another example of how a Catholic could be a feminist and faithful to the church, even given your definition of birth control, and of feminism

      I'm surprised no one has come up with this yet.
      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
        You still have another example of how an Orthodox Catholic could be a feminist, even given your definition of birth control.

        I'm surprised no one has come up with this yet.
        Othodox Catholics tend to support the old status quo, at least in France, where we are slowly departing from a catholic society. As such, the older the days, the more catholic they were. Of course, in the old days, women were reproduction factories treated like crap, but the society was catholic.
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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        • #79
          What about the distinction of 'artificial' contraception?

          Could a woman be a feminist and resort to natural family planning?
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
          2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
            Could a woman be a feminist and resort to natural family planning?
            You mean, have the guy leave the lass' vagina before the ejaculation?
            There is nothing feminist in it, because only the man has the power to leave (and many do not). The woman has no power over her own family planning.

            The most important felinist claim was "my body belongs to me". If there was a natural form of contraception that was completely under the woman's power, such as the contraceptive pill or the sterilizer, than a feminist could argue for such a form of contraception.

            But remember any form of contraception is an abomination to God. Remember Onan.
            "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
            "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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            • #81
              You mean, have the guy leave the lass' vagina before the ejaculation?
              I'm thinking fertility cycles, abstaining during a woman's fertile period.

              Completely under a woman's power in having sex only with her consent.
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                And the pope can excommunicate them.
                Gosh, what a scary prospect.

                If they were excommunicated, they'd be in good company.
                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                • #83
                  Good, what a penis pity party we have going on in here (well, before the abortion threadjack).
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GePap
                    Good, what a penis pity party we have going on in here (well, before the abortion threadjack).
                    Gynophobia and vagina dentata.

                    The threadjack is Kenobi One Note, his favourite song is 'Monotonous'.
                    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by molly bloom
                      vagina dentata.
                      No need to bring Ann Coulter into this thread.
                      If you don't like reality, change it! me
                      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by GePap


                        No need to bring Ann Coulter into this thread.

                        Aaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!


                        Nurse, the screens!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          Marriage was a form of slavery, oringinally.
                          And your key operative word is "originally" -- ergo, no longer the case.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • #88
                            Kenobi One Note,


                            I have many notes. Which one would you like to play first?
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                            • #89
                              Before you're allowed to play any tunes, you're gonna get rid of that stupid santa cap.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                                Could a woman be a feminist and resort to natural family planning?
                                Yes. Feminism is about choices. Feminists can be homemakers, if they choose to be. They just don't want to have to be forced to be.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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