Florida courts: "You gay people can't adopt children"

[Theben]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Playing devils advocate, is their any study on children raised by gay foster parents.

Are they more prone to being gay themselves, or being succeptable to crime or other things.

I have never heard of any.

None that I've herad of. I highly doubt it is so. However, in the event that someone did discover this it would be lauded by one side, and torn apart by the other- which, come to think of it, would make it a well known study, so that should answer your question.

[Guynemer]

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

There is no one on Earth more in need of a blowjob than Spinky.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by Sava
The state does not have the right to discriminate against people... that's like saying... "the state has a right to legislate it's 'moral dissapproval of African Americans'".

Equality under law... what don't these gay hating bigotted ****s understand about this?

Actually you are wrong here. I'm not saying I approve of the state's position. I am saying that under current law their is nothing illegal about thier position.

In Florida, sexual orientation is not a special protected class against discrimination. Race is. Along with color, religion, sex, national origin, age, handicap, marital status or familial status. Federal law recogmizes even fewer protected classes then Florida Law so I doubt the Supreme Court would overturn this case or even hear it .

I think if you read the judges decision, they are basically saying the same thing. They are not endorsing the law (remember judges don't make law the legislature does) they are just saying the law is not unconstitutional.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Yup, and they turn out just as well as kids from any two parent family.

Can you provide a source.

Everything I've ever heard said the optimal family condition is a mother and father. I recognize not all situations are that way. I also recognize that alot of people who grow up in different situations then the "optimal" turn out OK. I just seriously doubt that a legitimate study has concluded that being raised by adopted gay parents is equivalent to being raised by an adopted mother and father.

You know what I really find ironic about your position che? You once argued that it was better for black children to be adopted by black parents then white parents because white parents couldn't teach the child as well what it meant to be black. (I'm definietly paraphrasing here but that was the gist of it) And i said it shoudln't matter.

[Ming]

Stewie... what were you told about your anti gay crap...
And everybody else... stop the personal crap. I have no problem restricting the bunch of you...

[Theben]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
You know what I really find ironic about your position che? You once argued that it was better for black children to be adopted by black parents then white parents because white parents couldn't teach the child as well what it meant to be black. (I'm definietly paraphrasing here but that was the gist of it) And i said it shoudln't matter.

How is that ironic? White people don't have the experience of growing up black. So they can't teach them this. OTOH the child of a gay couple will either be straight or bi/gay. They can teach them about being gay, but if the child is straight no extra coaching is needed.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
Can you provide a source.

Nope, it's just something I saw somewhere over the years.

You know what I really find ironic about your position che? You once argued that it was better for black children to be adopted by black parents then white parents because white parents couldn't teach the child as well what it meant to be black. (I'm definietly paraphrasing here but that was the gist of it) And i said it shoudln't matter.

There is a difference between a member of an oppressed minority being raised by someone who has no experience dealing with those issues and a member of an oppressed minority raising a child who doesn't have to deal with those issues. Gay parents would be able to help a gay child deal with the experienes of growing up gay far better than straight parents would, but they would be equaly capable of raising straight kids, since most likely they themselves were raised by straight people in the straight community.

The studies which show children do best raised in a family with a mother and father were looking at two-parent v. one-parent families. Obviously a children will do better in a familiy with a provider and a care giver.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by Theben


How is that ironic? White people don't have the experience of growing up black. So they can't teach them this. OTOH the child of a gay couple will either be straight or bi/gay. They can teach them about being gay, but if the child is straight no extra coaching is needed.

So you would racially discriminate against adoptive parents but not consider thier sexual orientation.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
So you would racially discriminate against adoptive parents but not consider thier sexual orientation.

There is a difference between saying I don't think something should be and disallowing it. I don't think whites should adopt Black children, but I wouldn't prohibit it.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ming
Stewie... what were you told about your anti gay crap...
And everybody else... stop the personal crap. I have no problem restricting the bunch of you...

Why not just go ahead and be done with it to do us decent people a favor??

[Solly]

Because I'm not attacking anyone or being anti-gay. THis is a good policy, which is fully supported.

[Solly]

And Ming, it is time you started to crack down on personal attacks as well, and stopped being so biased.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I have already sworn to do violence to Spink, should we ever meet in person.

And just what the **** kind of violence do you think your whipped marshmallow ass is capable of, exactly?

As for stew the bigot - his comments thus far are tame and deserving of equal voice, regardless of irrational basis. Ming: you simply can't tell him what basic beliefs he can and can't express while in good behavior.

and yeah - the title isn't at all a fairy spin. "You gay people can't adopt children". Gee - post secondary institutions these days seem to have taken quite a bit of emphasis away from teaching "how not to be a fraudulant hack" in over teaching the hi-jacked "tolerance"

[Theben]

Originally posted by Zylka
And just what the **** kind of violence do you think your whipped marshmallow ass is capable of, exactly?

Could crack your 110 lb. girly-man frame in half.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Theben


Could crack your 110 lb. girly-man frame in half.

Pushing 185 :-)

And would he be using some form of giant nutcracker?? I'm under current impression those skin colored sacks of jello known as "his arms" would be having tough enough a time to flip that hardbound manifesto!

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