How can you believe homosexuality is a choice, unless you're bisexual?

[Theben]

I am always perplexed by people who insist homosexuality is a choice. Is heterosexuality a choice for them? Have they sat down and decided if they would like men or women?

This would be the reason they believe homosexuality is a choice, right? Because they could choose themselves? If not, where do they get this idea that it's a choice?

Arrrgh.... trying...
I can't think of any 'choice' involved other than someone who thought they were one and through experimentation discovered they were the other... that's not really a 'choice', though. More like self-discovery. As for where they get the idea, take your pick: media, peers, religion, family, etc. None of it based on concrete evidence. What I wonder is how many people who think it's a choice are pro- or anti- gay rights, and how many who think it's pre-determined the same.

[Drake Tungsten]

Just let it go, Theben. Let's take our fun conversation somewhere else and let this thread drop off the front page into the depths of the OT, where it belongs.

If you really love something, you have to set it free.

[monkspider]

I don't think it's a matter of "choice" so much as it is a matter of what porn you happen to watch. If you watch straight porn, you're probably straight. If you watch gay porn, you're probably gay, and so on and so forth.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by monkspider


And his name is Mr. Fun.

Nah -- I'm just the secret moderator.




Anyway, it is a good question to ask -- "Do heterosexuals choose to be straight?"

[Whaleboy]

I am bisexual and I don't believe it to be a choice.

I think human sexuality is like a sliding scale, with most people clumped at the hetereosexual end, others at the homosexual end, and a few in the middle. I don't believe there are such discrete groups as homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual, I believe that all humans are bisexual.

[Jon Miller]

I don't really beleive in true bisexuality

and no, it is not a choice

Jon Miller

[Brundlefly]

A person does make a choice about their sexuality. Some of you seem to think sexuality is like an instinct. There are no such things as human instincts apart from bodily secretions, reflexes, etc. . We have feelings and choose to act on those feelings by controlling (or not controlling) our thoughts. A person can adapt any sort of lifestyle they wish if they control their thought process skillfully enough.

[St Leo]

Everyone is bisexual.

[Whaleboy]

[mrmitchell]

In case someone comes along and actually says something remotely serious, I'm straight, and I'm telling you, my richard has a mind of its own when I start thinking about a hot chick. I mean, I don't consciously send signals to it that say "get hard" when I go to a porno site. And I'm sure gays are the same way.

[Whaleboy]

I could have told you that mrmitchell. Does your richard get like that on Apolyton?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Holy ****. A door-to-door salesman (the first who's ever came to my apartment here) just tried to sell me a Japanese-language Bible, honest to god. I think the Lord heard all you naysayers questioning Japan's status as a Christian nation and decided to send me a sign...

so how do you know it was a CHRISTIAN bible??

(Wonders if anyone has EVER translated the bible into Japanese under Jewish auspices)

Oops, nah, sorry, as you were gentlemen.

[Fake Boris]

True, everyone is bisexual. And yes, homosexuality could be considered as a choice- to the extent that you are free (in the official, contemporary morals) to react in a rational way to your physical desires.

[Capt Dizle]

I think if you look at species you will see evidence that a certain percentage vary from sexual norms. This is a genetic thing. We have homosexuals who are the way they are because of their genetic make-up. These arejust part of the process of natural selection. They don't reproduce, their inferior genes are being erased from the gene pool. Looking at it from a moral standpoint, these poor people are not sinners.

Then we have those who choose a homosexual lifestyle. These we may brand as sinners, from a moral point of view.

I know of no way to sort these folks out individually. They all have rights and deserve to be treated just like anyone else.

[Asher]

If it was natural selection, why are there still gay people?