The other thing about the scale is that at extreme ends it meets together (aka anarchism/libertarianism).
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I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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God. This thread's gone to the arse-end of hell on a skateboard.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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Don't you have small children to go frighten?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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You could try picking it up from where it last made sense.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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Originally posted by Theben
You could try picking it up from where it last made sense."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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If you'd prefer (actually, I would as well - these debates never end), I'll drop the debate.
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I've been thinking about this since yesterday, trying to figure out what the disparate ideologies share that qualifies them left or right. I think this is it.
Property. The further right you go, the more absolute the belief in the right of proerpty. The further left you go, the less. This is the only way you can get Stalinists and anarchists anywhere near each other on a political scale. The same goes for fascists and libertarians.
So on this scale, anarchists are the farthest to the left, while libertarians are the farthest to the right. Th further left you go, the more you believe in the right of society to interfere with private property untill you reach the socialists, where it goes from total regulation to the abolition of private property, giving way to communal and/or state property, and ultimately the abolition of property altogether."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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I prefer Che's measuring stick moreso than equal treatmennt. As definitions of equal treatment are too fuzzy."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I prefer Che's measuring stick moreso than equal treatmennt. As definitions of equal treatment are too fuzzy.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by yavoon
I'd edit post quickly. cuz no way that statement is standing up to scrutiny.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Chegitz -Property. The further right you go, the more absolute the belief in the right of proerpty. The further left you go, the less. This is the only way you can get Stalinists and anarchists anywhere near each other on a political scale. The same goes for fascists and libertarians.
So on this scale, anarchists are the farthest to the left, while libertarians are the farthest to the right. The further left you go, the more you believe in the right of society to interfere with private property untill you reach the socialists, where it goes from total regulation to the abolition of private property, giving way to communal and/or state property, and ultimately the abolition of property altogether.
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As definitions of equal treatment are too fuzzy.Che's system seems to do a good job.
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I've been thinking about this since yesterday, trying to figure out what the disparate ideologies share that qualifies them left or right. I think this is it.
Property. The further right you go, the more absolute the belief in the right of proerpty. The further left you go, the less. This is the only way you can get Stalinists and anarchists anywhere near each other on a political scale. The same goes for fascists and libertarians.
So on this scale, anarchists are the farthest to the left, while libertarians are the farthest to the right. Th further left you go, the more you believe in the right of society to interfere with private property untill you reach the socialists, where it goes from total regulation to the abolition of private property, giving way to communal and/or state property, and ultimately the abolition of property altogether.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en
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