Communist Education?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ned
Agathon, first you choose our products; now you choose to we can for.

Do I understand Communism correctly?

No.

You seem to imagine that we now have a freedom that we don't actually have. As it stands we get to choose between various flavours of fascist pig.

In a communist country you get a different choice, the only difference is that the shared assumptions of all the candidates aren't fascist Nazi pig, like they are here.

[Ned]

Agathon, of course.

And, as the field worker who spent his days sleeping under the shady oak tree would say, "Long live the Communist Party."

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
But, GePap, in communist systems, the people have no choice of whom to vote for.

We have already been over the point Ned than none of the "communist" states that have come into ebing came into ebing in the way orthodox marxism expected.

I find it almost amusing that the Communists say that communism is about democratization of everything, but when you pull back the curtain and look inside what you see is the opposite.

In the Lenisist, maoist versions, yes, but not in the orthodox marxist.

People's Democratic Republic of .... Not a single one of them allowed the people to choose their government. Communism as practiced is not about democracy, it is about lies.

I have told you already the porblem with this: how many times further do I need?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ned
Agathon, of course.

And, as the field worker who spent his days sleeping under the shady oak tree would say, "Long live the Communist Party."

of Apolyton.

[Ramo]

Ned's gonna start up his "workers of the field" story again. Run for the hills!

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Yes. IIRC, the Mercedes Benz was built in the same factory as the Trabi.

No.

Mercedes is in Stuttgart, not in Zwickau.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kidicious


I don't believe that you understand. Agathon wasted his time finding an educational link for you and you didn't use it. Who cares if you disagree, because you have chosen to remain ignorant on the subject?

Agathon wastes his time with many things not the least of which is indoctrinating himself with communist drivel.

But in order to be fair I took the time to review the links only to be spectacularly unimpressed.

I was hoping to see a description that speaks to mass statistical representation of markets but didn't.

I was hoping to see some empirical evidence of the more democratic process of the market yielding an overall worse outcome where n=280,000,000 but could not.

What I saw interstingly enough was a discusssion of game theory and a villification of lobbyists.

Additonally an endorsement of tax cuts too unless I misread.

And probably the most interesting piece of all in this otherwise wasted journey is that when I clicked the link I was taken to E-bay.

Now that my book report is done. I still disagree like it or not.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You made a positivie assertion. It's up to you to defend it.

No I represented the status quo.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Agathon


Really? And you really think that if everyone in the US voted for the socialist party that they would be allowed to put their policies into practice?

Within the context of the constitution and or amendments to the same, yes.

God help us tho' if we ever get that stupid.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Your example of a political compromise has nothing to do with employing economic resources to maximize the benefit to society. Allowing individuals to produce and consume without regard to the social cost of their decisions has proven repeatedly to fail. It's not a matter of compromise. It's a matter of individuals realizing that to get the maximum benefit from the economy every individual must be refrained from producing and consuming in a manner that is costly to society.

But who gets to decide what is a "benefit to society" or what is a "cost to society"?

Can you define these for me and weight them accordingly?

And after you've done that make sure that your definition of these same benefits and costs are in keeping with the other 280MM folk m'kay?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
No I represented the status quo.

Which really means nothing. If you do, then you should have plenty of suporting evidence out there..were is it?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I stated the fact of the present I neither have to defend it nor attack it.

[Ramo]

Because you can't defend it?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I stated the fact of the present I neither have to defend it nor attack it.

sad cop out.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Didn't realize facts required defense.