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I know that's what you were saying, but I don't think that was a secret...
Will make for a lot of hungry mouths. I think a lot of them are feeling betrayed.
Will make for a lot of hungry mouths. I think a lot of them are feeling betrayed.
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12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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I agree that it was no secret. And I would expect the astro boys to want to double dip -- if you can, then there's no harm trying. But hope and funding don't necessarily always coincide 100%.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Budget for science work now actually decreases significantly over next five years, BTW.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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What do you classify as science work?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Don't know how it was divided. Saw a breakdown of NASA budget. Was divided into Mars work, Shuttle work, ISS work and pure science
Shuttle and ISS disappear completely in next little while
Science goes down and then climbs slowly
Mars stuff goes up through about 20% (?) increase in NASA overall budget and by taking money from the other stuff.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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I haven't seen any budget figures that aren't back-of-the-envelope. I'm skeptical of any unofficial classifications at this point, especially since the plan appears to wrap at least some of the quasi-science stuff, like advanced propulsion systems, into the Moon/Mars budget.
FYI, the 20% increase would have been about 15% without the Moon/Mars plan.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Bastards!Budget for science work now actually decreases significantly over next five years, BTW.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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KH, those Hubble people need to get a plan together for a telescope on the moon.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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--"No, the shuttle was a good program, in it's time."
Not really. There were better options presented at the time, the current shuttle was just chosen because it had the smallest up-front costs. Given that it's never even come close to achieving the flight capability promised, it was a bad deal all around.
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shoulda coulda wouldaWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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I don't know if I entirely agree with this. The space station is affording us the opportunity to evaluate how componets made by different agencies than NASA can all work together with the NASA based product. It affords the same opportunity to the other agencies as well. This may supply some utility in making a standardized world space program in the future which will be necessary for real colinization efforts.Originally posted by DanS
The Station was ill advised from the beginning, because it isn't a building block for any other goals."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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true
any step means we can learn alot of valuable information
plus like you said seeing how certain components hold up over the long term, that kind of information is invaluableWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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There no air, hence no Brownian motion, hense nothing to keep the stuff, um, "airborn". Ground structures shouldn't get much dustier than things already get in LEO.Originally posted by Verto
Which could be a considerable amount.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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I don't mind that (I understand those that doOriginally posted by KrazyHorse
Don't know how it was divided. Saw a breakdown of NASA budget. Was divided into Mars work, Shuttle work, ISS work and pure science
Shuttle and ISS disappear completely in next little while
Science goes down and then climbs slowly
Mars stuff goes up through about 20% (?) increase in NASA overall budget and by taking money from the other stuff.). I have no problem with a temporary decrease in science now if it will mean we can do better science cheaper in the future.
No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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I don't know.Originally posted by PLATO
You sure have been on an anti-American roll here the last few days. More so than normal.
IMHO, the only way we will be able to permanently colonize other planets would be an international effort. At some point the efforts of the spacefearing nations must be combined for all our common good.
In the short term, cooperation is better.
But competition has driven many great projects (like the first space race) and i think some healthy competition beetween china with some russian help (and maybe other too) and europe and us on the other side maybe will get things going much faster.Comment
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