An explanation of why ME peace isn't possible

[lord of the mark]

maybe peace IS possible

Student coord comm for democracy in Iran says ordinary Iranians are expressing gratitude to US and Israel

http://www.daneshjoo.org/smccdinews/...cle_4078.shtml

Take with as much salt as necessary.

[Solver]

Ordinary Iranians are people who want to live and of course would welcome any help...

[Tattila the Hun]

The only thing that could bring peace to ME is a giant comet, extincting all life on earth.

Skynet could do it too, but we'd have to get rid of Connor first.

And I'm only partially joking...

[Dinner]

An excellent artical which cuts the matter to the bone.

The ME conflict won't end because Muslim facists won't ever accept Israel.

[Capt Dizle]

The phrases "Peace in the middle east" and "hell freezing over" are and will continue to be pretty much interchangable. I think it will take an act of God, something on the scale of the return of Jesus, to change this status.

[CerberusIV]

If the Iranian government is so anti-Israeli why did they accept spare parts to keep their F-4 Phantoms flying during the 1980's through Israel?

[Ned]

Until Europe and the United Nations begin to denounce all displays, preachings and teachings of anti-Semitism, peace is not possible. However, don't hold your breath as Europe and UN are well in to denoucing Israel in an uneven-handed way, labelling in its resolutions that the existence of Israel is racisim.

Nazi-like anti-Semitism is alive and well outside of the world of Islam and is quite apparent to the casual observer. That has to change first before we can even begin to think about changing the Nazism of the Muslim world.

[Imran Siddiqui]

that the existence of Israel is racisim.

In it's current state it is . Labeling a state as a 'Jewish state' and then saying it isn't racist is like labeling the state relgion in the US to be Anglicanism and then saying it conforms to free exercise.

[Zevico]

Labeling a state as a 'Jewish state' and then saying it isn't racist is like labeling the state relgion in the US to be Anglicanism and then saying it conforms to free exercise.

Inhales. Exhales. Inhales. Exhales.
Ireland is an Irish state. Poland is a Polish State. Israel is a Jewish State. If what you say is true than every country in the world is racist.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ireland is an Irish state. Poland is a Polish State. Israel is a Jewish State. If what you say is true than every country in the world is racist.

And what would you say if someone said we want Ireland to be an 'Irish State'. I'd consider such a statement to be xenophobic (which is somewhat racist).

And furthermore, I'm not convinced that 'Jewish' is a race... any more than 'Islam' is a race.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Zevico

Inhales. Exhales. Inhales. Exhales.
Ireland is an Irish state. Poland is a Polish State. Israel is a Jewish State. If what you say is true than every country in the world is racist.

Does Ireland have a constitution that state that it is soley an Irish state? Or does Ireland's constitution grant all citizens equal rights in all aspects under the law? If the later is true, then it is "Irish" in name only, and not in how it treats its citizens. The basic question is: can a person not Irish in any way (lets say a Hindu) immigrate, become a citizen with all the same rights as any other Irishman, and within a few years have his sons be as Irish as some kid whose decendents go back 1000 years.

Sorry, but this line of defense is demonstrably false.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Re: An explanation of why ME peace isn't possible

Originally posted by Solver
ME peace is obviously impossible

Well, obviously.

Does Ireland have a constitution that state that it is soley an Irish state? Or does Ireland's constitution grant all citizens equal rights in all aspects under the law? If the later is true, then it is "Irish" in name only, and not in how it treats its citizens. The basic question is: can a person not Irish in any way (lets say a Hindu) immigrate, become a citizen with all the same rights as any other Irishman, and within a few years have his sons be as Irish as some kid whose decendents go back 1000 years.

I agree. And the fact that I could convert to Judaeism tonight and most likely (if the Rabbais/immigration officers agree) gain Israeli citizenship tomorrow says something.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

And furthermore, I'm not convinced that 'Jewish' is a race... any more than 'Islam' is a race.

It isn't one, to be Jewish is to ascribe to the Jewish faith. You don't believe in Judaeism, you're not a Jew.

[Capt Dizle]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[And furthermore, I'm not convinced that 'Jewish' is a race... any more than 'Islam' is a race.

That statement does not speak well of your education.

[GePap]

Re: Re: An explanation of why ME peace isn't possible

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
I agree. And the fact that I could convert to Judaeism tonight and most likely (if the Rabbais/immigration officers agree) gain Israeli citizenship tomorrow says something.

Yes, and its not good. Cause if you were to convert to Islam and try to get Israeli citizenship it would not be half as easy..

wereupon no matter what religion you are, in most states the requirements for citizenship are the same.

That is the difference.