How do they explain western dominance in other world regions?

[JohnT]

Originally posted by paiktis22
you'd wish

And your support is where?

*JohnT looks around, sees none though a small post might have slipped in here somewhere*

[Bereta_Eder]

Scientific method.

A result of a corelation that spans continents


Industrial revolution.

One nationsentity' explosive achievement of said correlation


God, Imran, there's so many to list!

Indeed and non of them "western"

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by JohnT


And your support is where?

*JohnT looks around, sees none though a small post might have slipped in here somewhere*

in all good libraries

(there is a world outside 'poly - not only libraries too)

[JohnT]

Getting off the subject, why is this such a hang-up for you?

[Bereta_Eder]

It isnt. I dont have anything better to do at least this is the one remotely interesting subject now in poly for me

[Imran Siddiqui]

Scientific method. Industrial revolution. Nation-state and the various forms of ideologies... God, Imran, there's so many to list!

Yeah, but one of them . I'd actually say the Combustion Engine may be it for me. Western Democracy is also up there.

[Bereta_Eder]

no such thing as "Western democracy"


huge differences between states in nationstate functioning and ethics within the "west" and also amazing similarities with operational sctructural entities outside it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Of course there is. Just 'cause your blind to it doesn't mean that Liberal Democracy isn't a creation of Western civilization.

[Bereta_Eder]

also its development can't be sustained an an uninterrupted exclusive "Western" historical evoluition and also as said can'tbe seen as "one and the same" either.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Of course there is. Just 'cause your blind to it doesn't mean that Liberal Democracy isn't a creation of Western civilization.

there is no such thing as liberal democracy being born out of the body of a unified single "western civ". also libneral democracy isnt encompassing or transcending all of "Western civ" as defined either which is i believe also a criterion for proving its (never neverland) existance

[Imran Siddiqui]

there is no such thing as liberal democracy being born out of the body of a unified single "western civ".

Yes there is. After the US developed it from ideas from French and English philosophers, it spread to the continent.

also libneral democracy isnt encompassing all of "Western civ" as defined

US has one, Canada has one, France has one, Spain has one, Britain has one, Germany has one... etc.

Can you tell me a Western civilization country without a liberal democracy?

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yes there is. After the US developed it from ideas from French and English philosophers, it spread to the continent.

It wasnt developed in the US. It hasnt spead to the continent. you have one kind of state functioning which you accomodated to your preconditions.

US has one, Canada has one, France has one, Spain has one, Britain has one, Germany has one... etc.

vastly different concepts and different application also

Can you tell me a Western civilization country without a liberal democracy?

yes but before

can you tell me a non "western civ" country which has it as political current?

[Imran Siddiqui]

It wasnt developed in the US. It hasnt spead to the continent.

Of course it did and of course it did.

vastly different concepts and different application also

Still have the basic tenants of liberal democracy.

can you tell me a non "western civ" country which has it as political current?

Yes, Japan. Western Civilization is obviously spreading so more and more countries are embracing more liberal democratic reforms.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by JohnT
"Nobody, but NOBODY cooks a meaner steak in Western Civilization than my father."

Might as well be true. But my mother makes best baclava (sp?) in the Western Civilization.

These simple facts just show how grande and all-encompassing yet basic to all of us and present in our everyday lives Western Civilization is

[Bereta_Eder]

and there wasnt a corelation of english and french philosophers which gave it birth.

the histortical journeys and political innovations and state applications of these two entities not only contardict eachother but also find having themselves more similarities with other entities outisde "Western civ" than with themselves.