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France bans religious symbols in schools and hospitals.
Originally posted by Azazel
Actually, I am not aware of any jewish commandment requiring to wear a skullcap ( kipa sounds much better, btw. )
IIRC there is a requirement to cover the head during prayer that goes back at least to Gaonic times (Circa 800 CE) though i dont have cite handy. at the time covering the head was standard practice for males both in Islam and the West (wear hoods were preferred) the hood going out of fashion in favor of bareheadedness created a dilemma for Jewish males, who adopted the kippa as a compromise. ISTR that at least one medieval scholar said that this was absurd, there was no halachic basis for accepting the kippa as a substitute for a more complete head covering. The kippa was adopted anyway, and the rabbinate followed the people. (This is cited by Conservative Jews for the notion that the people - klal Israel - have the right to lead the rabbinate on halachic questions)
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
I think there is no law against head covers, but there is likely to be a rule in internal reglementations.
thanks for the info
a friendly correction - In english we would say regulations. In this case English follows the Latin rather than the Norman French I think. (of course to follow the Anglo-saxon it would simply be rule making)
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Originally posted by lord of the mark
a friendly correction - In english we would say regulations. In this case English follows the Latin rather than the Norman French I think. (of course to follow the Anglo-saxon it would simply be rule making)
Thanks for the correction. I'm tired tonight, so my English is worse than usual, but everything should come back to normal when I come back from Christmas
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
It's a democracy, after all.
It sounds like the majority trampling on the rights of the minority.
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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
personally, I was all for giving up on the debts. Not just for Iraq though, but for most Third World nations.
Saint Marcus, I would not be in favor of debt relief for the Third World unless they implement both capitalism and democracy. Otherwise I would prefer keeping the debt in place.
Thanks for the correction. I'm tired tonight, so my English is worse than usual, but everything should come back to normal when I come back from Christmas
nah we just have too crazy a language - too many occasions where we have a latin derived AND a Norman French derived AND an Anglo-Saxon derived word for the same thing. A great resource for writers but a torture for non-natives learning the language, I guess.
In this case our REGULATORS have to follow RULE MAKING processes. Their rules go into the Code of Federal REGULATIONS. Just as our LEGISLATORS have to make LAWS. The LEGISLATION thus passed becomes public LAW.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Oh theres certain to be bad weeks, and few as good as this one - to which I might add the French-German surrender -oops I meant compromise - on Iraqi debts.
Now joined by Russia
I am happy that the US are satisfied with the three fast-obtained non quantified *commitments*. As previously anticipated on this forum, they are all subjets to the procedures and decision process of the Paris Club.
Any bet on the outcome ?
Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
I am happy that the US are satisfied with the three fast-obtained non quantified *commitments*. As previously anticipated on this forum, they are all subjets to the procedures and decision process of the Paris Club.
Any bet on the outcome ?
Incorrect, Russia said 65% and seems to be moving ahead without the Paris club. Your comments apply only to France and Germany, and even in those cases they went farther than they have before. It wouldnt have made a great back by itself, I agree, but combined with the other things it was as we say, "icing on the cake"
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Incorrect, Russia said 65% and seems to be moving ahead without the Paris club. Your comments apply only to France and Germany, and even in those cases they went farther than they have before. It wouldnt have made a great back by itself, I agree, but combined with the other things it was as we say, "icing on the cake"
Quite contradictory with your source :
It is understood that Russia's offer to reduce the debt must first be approved by the Paris Club, an informal group of creditors that co-ordinates debt repayment.
Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
"Once, as I was going to the inner city, I suddenly encountered an apparition in a black caftan and black hair locks. It is a Jew? was my first thought.
For, to be sure, they had not looked like that in Linz. I observed the man furtively and cautiously, but the longer I stared at this foreign face, scrutinizing feature for feature, the more my first questions assumed a new form:
Is this a German?"
Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf," Houghton Mifflin Company, 1971 at 56.
. As a matter of fact, priests who pledged to the Revolution were civil servants, they were paid by the State.
They also weren't really priests, as they were required to only teach the state religion, which was a hastily concocted hodge-podge of deisitic mumbo-jumbo.
Would it be OK to register Frenchmen, just so long as they only spoke English and regugitated the American Republican party line on all things political?
How about it if we register you as a born-again Baptist?
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
They are PUBLIC schools, paid for by public money, and if the governement elected by the public, supported by the public, calls for a ban on all (not just Muslim) overt religious symbols in PUBLIC schools, then it is their every right to do so. It's a democracy, after all.
did u even believe this when u wrote it?
bill of rights? tyranny of majority? 51% of the population to take 100% of the ppl's taxes and do w/ as they like?
Wearing the skullcap/headscarf are both nessecary actions that are required by their respective faiths, and pose no direct harm to other people. Nor does wearing a skullcap by itself proselytize.
That's why I proposed a different wording of the law. Wearing scarves or kippas doesn't hurt most of the time, except in certain classes like sports or chemistry. Wearing face covering hurts in all cases.
For those who comment about Iraq and bash France for its refusal of interverntion, let me remind you that the U.S. called for war in order to find out WoMD, a search which was far from successful, and that the French president said that, if the reason invoked had been to get rid of a dictator, the French reaction could have been different. The government might have acted the same, but the population would certainly had felt better on a war to get rid of a tyrant rather than a war to take the oil, errr... find inexistant weapons.
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That's why I proposed a different wording of the law. Wearing scarves or kippas doesn't hurt most of the time, except in certain classes like sports or chemistry. Wearing face covering hurts in all cases.
For those who comment about Iraq and bash France for its refusal of interverntion, let me remind you that the U.S. called for war in order to find out WoMD, a search which was far from successful, and that the French president said that, if the reason invoked had been to get rid of a dictator, the French reaction could have been different. The government might have acted the same, but the population would certainly had felt better on a war to get rid of a tyrant rather than a war to take the oil, errr... find inexistant weapons.
But, all this shows is that Bush acted primarily to defend the US (and France), not to liberate Iraq. Had the US, or the world for that matter, been TRULY concerned over the plight of the Iraqi people, it would have acted in '91 when it had the opportunity.
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