The rights of father

[Pekka]

I think laws definitely favour moms. I guess it's the dads who mostly are responsible for kids abusings etc and just being bad fathers, but when it comes to good guys, I think the law favours too much the other side.

Ideally, parents would solve this thing themselves. But they are too stupid.

[Datajack Franit]

Talk to a lawyer and hope she doesn't invent funny stuff like "he was drunk all the day" or some crap like that

[Kuciwalker]

In this case, how is the mom keeping him out? Once she opens the door, there isn't anything she can really do to stop him.

[Pekka]

skywalker, she won't open the door. And, he don't want to brake in either, because that would make sure he'll never see the kid again.

[Buck Birdseed]

Blackice? Is that you?

[Az]

Snapcase won't answer the question! Snapcase won't answer the question! nya nya nya.

[Drogue]

Re: The rights of father

Originally posted by Pekka
It struck me how evil people can be. And also, that justice doesn't care about fathers.

Surely there must be a law against that. Could he try for custody? Even if he doesn't win, unless he's done something pretty bad himself, he should get decent visiting rights. If she doesn't comply, the court can allow him to stop paying maintainance and send baliffs round if it takes it (at least in this country).

There may be another side to the story, but from what you've said, that looks pretty horrific

[Agathon]

Men have very little power when it comes to these things.

For good reason feminist activists have attacked the system since the 70s and have got much of what they wanted and more. Some people think it may have gone too far in certain aspects.

I for one do not think that men should have to pay child maintenance payments as long as abortion on demand is the policy.

[Chemical Ollie]

My big brother is in exactly the situation you describe. His oldest daughter (12 years old) was kidnapped by her mother and talked into hating him and refusing to meet him. The younger kids still move back and forth between them every second week. But just recently, the oldest daughter finally got "home", despite the protests from her mother. My brother won in court and got to meet his kid. They visited my house today, and there seemed to be no hard feelings between them (father and daughter). My kids just love to play with their older cousins and the joy goes both ways, so I think it's a big pity my brother and his ex can't get along.

My brother married a new wife from Thailand 2 weeks ago, and his ex-wife's lawyer used this as an argument in court to "prove" he's a bad father. My brother sued the lawyer for racism and will very likely win. In what way would the nationality of his new wife affect his ability to take care of his kids?

By the way, Pekka, I told my brother about your "David Blaine hovering trick" six months ago. Now he had downloaded everything about it from the net and was training to teach his kids to do it

[Pekka]

Chemical Ollie, I hope your brother wins the case, looks like things are looking up to him though... these things sucks and I imagine it was hard times... Maybe I'll understand it better when I have own kids, but it didn't look easy on my buddy so I kind of have a feeling about what it might be.

Yeah, that trick is awesome! I can't do it anymore that good, and I never was very good anyway but I fooled few people for few seconds... I was drunk at Uni party, and said to these chicks I never seen before from another department I can hover and you know all drunk, finally got them to watch me after several pleads and 'go away' answers, and failed miserably. It was horrible, they didn't even laugh at me but were more like 'yeah what a loser'
The other Blaine tricks are impressive too.... the hover one is maybe the most difficult one, and also it doesn't work so well on people you know.. Blaine works up the trick so good people freak out.... sets them up so good.
The 540 grade hand still continues to amaze buddies though .

[Imran Siddiqui]

I for one do not think that men should have to pay child maintenance payments as long as abortion on demand is the policy.

I concur.

On your friend, Pekka. That is horrible. The system has swung too far, unfortunetly.

[Pekka]

Well I don't know it's the fault of system on this one.. maybe on the part that it's not effective enough to deliver justice or some kind of settlement fast enough, that guarantees some kind of results for every party, and the end of the senseless abusing of kids mind and using it as a weapon to fight each other. If you love the kid enough, you should realize that you want the kids happiness more than anything, right? Do you know lots of kids who don't want to see both their parents, assuming none of them is abusing the kid?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I for one do not think that men should have to pay child maintenance payments as long as abortion on demand is the policy.

I concur.

On your friend, Pekka. That is horrible. The system has swung too far, unfortunetly.

Yeah, the law seems broken on this one. Especially since parental obligations and rights can no longer be tied to biological parenthood (surrogacy, IVF, etc.).

Some kick-ass lawyer needs to expose these laws.

Here's a chance for Imran Siddiqui esq., lawyer of Georgia, to show his quality.

[Dr Strangelove]

OTOH my brother's daughter lost custody of her pre-school aged son two years ago. She married this guy when she was a teenager, but he abused her. Heck, he even fought with her right in front of my brother's family and my family one Christmas. The boy was exposed to this violent treatment of his mother throughout infancy and toddlerhood. The guy eventually walked out on her, leaving her to raise the kid. The kid became a little hellion. At age three he tried to smother my daughter. I've attributed his behavior to having been exposed to violence at an early age. Two years later the ex-husband remarries and then sues for custody of the boy. He uses reports that my niece's then boyfriend hit the child as a pretext for removing the child from her custody. The funny thing is that it turns out that the recent boyfriend had been a friend of the ex-husband's and was an employee of the ex-husband's father.

One of our female employees had a similar experience. Her ex-husband had abused her, then walked out. She got a restraining order requiring him to keep his distance from her, despite which he managed to enter her home, remove her baby, and then when followed back to his home brandished a firearm at her. When the case went to court the judge decided that the child should simply stay with whomever currently had custody, which at the time was the father.

What ties these two cases together is that both occurred in rural settings and that in both cases the fathers' parents had personal connections the county judges.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hey, I have 1.5 years until I can call myself Esq. I don't want to get in trouble with the Bar Association .