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  • leads to a 5.5 ypc average, which is eye popping.


    Not this season...
    KH FOR OWNER!
    ASHER FOR CEO!!
    GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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    • now I made my case about rushing. Now to discuss Vick.

      Vick had a so-so day. But he got the win, that is all that is important. It's still too soon to tell for him. There is one more game left this season, but I feel next season is whether we see if Vick has the leadership to take a team to the playoffs. We all know he's extremely talented and can win some tough games. but can he take a team deep into the playoffs? That remains to be seen.

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      • you guys aren't getting what I am saying

        I'M NOT SAYING RUSHING ISN'T IMPORTANT!!!! I'M NOT SAYING RUSHING IS WORTHLESS OR THAT 150 YARDS A GAME IS BAD!!!!

        sigh... read my posts over since you guys don't get it... I can't find any moer ways to say the same thing.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • Was it Yogi Berra who said "The team who scores the most points USUAlLY wins"?

          Rushing is important. You need to establish a good run game to open up the secondary for the pass by keeping people up to protect the run. Similarly if you only play the pass rush your secondary will get picked a part. I think the 49ers did a good job yesterday keeping McNabb and Staley contained, had they ran the ball more they may have done better.

          One side of the ball, or one stat is not important, it is everything that combines that determines the best team; and that is the team with more wins in the right games.

          San Diego had one of the best Ds through the 90s and even had the #1 defense in a year when they only had 1 win!

          I just came here to say Yaaay Niners, you may be out of the hunt but you still control the fates of other teams... I said never count them out, Eagles suck!!! and it looks like we don't really need TO, that Lloyd guy has the hops and Wilson is great... get rid of TO and keep Garcia... that's my 2 cents on that.

          Oh, and can anyone tell me why ppl were chanting "Aikman Sucks" during the game? I know he was in the booth, but what does Philly have against him?

          Also, the last play by the Saints was fun to watch, and that last quarter by the Bucs was superb, sucks it didn't make OT..
          Monkey!!!

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          • San Diego had one of the best Ds through the 90s and even had the #1 defense in a year when they only had 1 win!
            uhmmm sorry I don't believe this...
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #1 against the rush in 2000...
              Monkey!!!

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              • that's different than "#1 defense"

                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • I was speaking of the top of my head, I had to search for just that stat, and am trying to find their overall ranking...

                  They were still a really good defense for a 1 win team, and is a good example of how one side of the ball does not always determine if your team is good or not... I also think the 49er D of this years is awesome.
                  Monkey!!!

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                  • So is the Bills' D, and they also have a crap record.

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                    • 13th overall

                      Anyway look at Defensive ratings vs. Records or even playoff spots for this year:

                      1. Dallas - clinch spot, but not division
                      2. Buffalo - sitting at .500
                      3. Denver - clinch wild card
                      4. Tampa Bay - you mean the Tampa has beens?
                      5. Baltimore - their fate is still in the air, but are still 9-6
                      6. Jacksonville - 5-10, impressive
                      7. New England - clinch
                      8. Miami - 9-6, won't see a post-season
                      9. Pittsburgh - 6 and 9
                      10. San Fran - choked

                      I'd say one side of the ball doesn't win it, so how can one aspect of one side mean anything more?... though it may mean the world in the post-season
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • and you are basing this on his record in 3 games... eekkk


                        No, last years record as well. Saying you can't count last year is simply trying to shield yourself from the obvious argument that Vick led a crappy team to the playoffs... and then beat the Pack in Lambeau in the playoffs. First time EVER that has happened.

                        What I'm saying is that even though Portis and Smith had great rushing totals against the Bears, they still didn't do **** to help their team win.


                        Which is bull****. Of course they did. The rest of the team didn't pick up the slack. As stated, rushing doesn't just move the chains, but gives you clock managment and keeps your D (and their O) off the field.

                        Not this season...


                        Why not? Portis has a 5.5, Lewis has 5.4, and then everyone else over 1000 yards is at 5.0 or less (Priest Holms is at 4.6). Definetly eye-popping.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Japher

                          Oh, and can anyone tell me why ppl were chanting "Aikman Sucks" during the game? I know he was in the booth, but what does Philly have against him?
                          Gee I don't know? Could it be that the Cowboys have been our main rival in the NFC East for decades? Anything having to do with Cowboys past or present fires up Eagles fans. Giants and Redskins fans I've talked to feel the same way about the Cowboys.. Philly fans are just more vocal about it.

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                          • yeah but Aikman's been out of it for years.

                            Damn bastards cheered when Irvin almost broke his neck in Philly.

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                            • yeah but Aikman's been out of it for years.


                              No one every said Philly fans were smart .
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • Originally posted by Dissident
                                yeah but Aikman's been out of it for years.

                                Damn bastards cheered when Irvin almost broke his neck in Philly.
                                If Aikman had played for Philly he would have been the most popular player in the history of the franchise.

                                You're right that Irvin incident did suck. But show me a team whose fans don't have some kind of skeleton in their closet. It is ridiculous to assume that those fans represent the whole body of Philly fans. Sports talk radio in this city has certain personalities that are successful in whipping that certain segment of fans without brains into a frenzy and those are the ones that make the headlines...

                                Once one of our teams wins a world championship you will see far fewer of these incidents......

                                Did you ever go without sex for more than a couple of weeks? Do you remember how cranky you were until you finally got some? That's what it is like for Philly Fans. If world championship = sex , here's the length of time we've been without sex: 28 years for hockey, 23 years for baseball, 20 years for basketball, 43 years for football...

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