RingWraiths vs. Dementors

[Mr. President]

Lonestar

The problem (for me) is that I'm not sure what the Dementors are exactly. The Nazgul were former kings of Haradistan or mighty sorcerers of the East. I can't imagine them being defeated by walking depression miasmas.

[Drake Tungsten]

Yeah? Let's compare the Premier Wizards of Middle-Earth and the Potterverse.

[Lonestar]

I pciture an exchange between the two as something like this:

Dumlbedore: Could you let me get my wand? I seem to have left it over there.
Gandalf: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!
Dumbledore: No need to yell. Here, fight Harry for a while. I have a meeting to attend... at the... somewhere else...
Harry: Beware... I've defeated Voldemort three times.
(elsewhere, Voldemort has become the Balrog's indentured servant)
Gandalf: You're not even worth using magic on. (Hits him over the head with his staff)
Dumbledore: Wait, you're not supposed to do that! (begins mumbling spells)
Gandalf: Shut up! (Points staff, kills Dumbledore


Gandalf is an Order of Magnitude beyond Dumbledore. His a Fricking Angel, man. At the (real) Battle of Pelennor Fields Gandalf smote the Armies of Mordor Good. ( or was it at the Battle of the Black Gate, point is, he held them a damn long time)

Dumbledore, lets see...well, we know he can knock out multiple people at once, but so can Gandalf (with Chain Lightening!). He can Duel an evil wizard...so can Gandalf...

Yep, I'll run with accomplishments here.

[Drake Tungsten]

Dumbledore would have destroyed him, or that the least, disapparated and apparated on the bridge as the Balrog fell to the bottom.

For the last time, you cannot apparate within the Mines of Moria! Honestly, haven't any of you read Moria: A History?

[Mr. President]

Moria: A History

What is that?

[Drake Tungsten]

Both a made-up book and a reference you obviously didn't get...

[Lonestar]

I'm going to bed. But this isn't over Imran,
not by a longshot.

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Both a made-up book and a reference you obviously didn't get...

Oh, one of those things. I see.

[Jaguar]

Ringwraiths. But I contend that Dumbledore could take Gandalf any day.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Dumbledore would have destroyed him, or that the least, disapparated and apparated on the bridge as the Balrog fell to the bottom.

For the last time, you cannot apparate within the Mines of Moria! Honestly, haven't any of you read Moria: A History?

[The Mad Monk]

[sluggy]ringwraiths can run, and therefore win[/sluggy]

[Imran Siddiqui]

you cannot apparate within the Mines of Moria!

Of course you can .

Gandalf is an Order of Magnitude beyond Dumbledore. His a Fricking Angel, man.

And Dumbledore is the most power creature in the Potterverse... sounds akin to an angel to me.

He can Duel an evil wizard...so can Gandalf...

Gandalf lost to his evil wizard, IIRC .

... btw, you don't need a wand to cast magic if you are powerful enough. The best spells come with a wand, but they are easily ready.

I'd take Dumbledore over Gandalf.

ut I contend that Dumbledore could take Gandalf any day.

[Fve Crathva]

Are we talking Gandalf the Grey, or Gandalf the White?

SP

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Yes, let's. Before TSS, Dumbledore was well acknowledged as the most powerful wizard, at the very least, in England. In TSS, he created an amazingy brilliant trap to keep TSS hidden (and it would have continued to be if Harry hadn't come upon it). In CoS, he once again allows Harry to be tested... you wonder why he knows everything at the end of the books... not like he wasn't paying attention. In PoA, he helped an innocent man escape. In GoF, anyone can be confused by the Polyjuice Potion, especially by one as smart as Barty Crouch. In OotP, Dumbledore was in charge of the Order of the Phoenix and battled Voldemort in a momentus battle and would have killed him nicely had he not been linked to Harry.

You have obviously never read OotP, or else you'd know why Dumbledore (nor no one else) can kill Voldemort aside from Harry. Therefore, it'd be pointless for him to do anything.

Once again, he knows all the happens. I don't remember Gandalf being omnipressent. In fact, Gandalf died while facing the Balrog. Dumbledore would have destroyed him, or that the least, disapparated and apparated on the bridge as the Balrog fell to the bottom.

Yech, an omnipressent deus ex machina? Thanks - You've cleared up any thoughts I had that Harry Potter might actually be worth reading.

[Q Classic]

my vote is with gandalf and the ringwraiths over dumbledore and the dementors.

why?

gandalf's got a longer beard, and a staff. dumbledore's got a shorter beard, and a wand.

the ringwraiths have huge fellbeast mounts. the dementors just kinda float.