Taram!!! The new Europe.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Pekka
I'm fed up with this EU fiddling. IT IS CLEAR that all these plans are MADE BEFORE the "discussion" and "negotiating" has started. Few countries have already planned everything out, and we are just following it, thinking we have a chance to influence it.

This is the ****ing way things works in a EU where individual countries have a say... Well, where only big individual countries have a say. In qlmost ALL EU handlings, small countries can only affect the projects to the margin, they cannot participate credibly in the elaboration of the core (save Belgium, because of its sheer willingness to bother doing the actual work)

This is precisely why we need to get rid of a EU where individual governments are the ones who decide, and that's why we need a really powerful Parliamen, to take our decisions together at last.

[Bereta_Eder]

Ecthelion, sorry I wish to remain independent - but supporter

Pekka, if you watch you'll see that Finland is in the countries that haven't yet expressed their position.

My opinion? When the core Europe will get going, they'll ask to join and they'll be let to join. Finland just needs to see it going forthward first for some reasons IMHO.

[Pekka]

paiktis, well to be honest, I except us to be in the core later on. But I'm ranting on advance. That's the job of SUPERCITIZEN who is btw still undefeated. I'll take it on EU and win... why? Because:

SupppaCitttizen powerfull
He's a fighter like a bull
He calls the right, he calls the wrong
He is the one who HITS THE GOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!

He's the public enemy number one
If you do him wrong, you will be done
He's the defendor of the ones
who are oppressed, he picks up his guns
He runs and runs, to save the day
to make them pay, to have them slaied!

SupppaCitttizen powerfull
He's a fighter like a bull
He calls the right, he calls the wrong
He is the one who HITS THE GOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!

[Monk]

Chegitz,

The kings and queens will pretty much be the last things they'll take away. The process to dissolve our nations will be easier if some symbolism like the royals gets to remains intact. During our 2000 Euro referendum, somebody actually made the argument that the Euro "would take the Queen off the crown" which wasn't just ridiculous but also false (unfortunately).

[Tripledoc]

All the political stuff will eventually be resolved. European countries are democracies and every politician knows were it's going.

However what I am looking for is when Europe is going to rearm. After all that is the rules of the game now. A strong military equals respect. Therefore Europe needs to reactivate the Eureka anti-ballistic missile systems program. Its a good thing that with the launching of the Gallilee project Europe will have a proper targeting system in place, however the project needs to be speeded up. The Airbus conglomerate needs further funding to get these troop carriers on line. The adopted Italian proposal for a huge 200 Billion Euro investment in roads, railroads, bridges harbours, and tunnels will strengten the defensive infrastructure of Europe and provide further means for speedy transportation of troops and material.

With an independent European militery command, the Franco-German corps will be the core of the new European army. Rising unemployment in Europe will provide a reserve that can be drawn upon for recruiting material. in the end though some sort of European draft will eventually have to be imposed. Here of course Europe with some 400 million people will have an advantage.

[Pekka]

"With an independent European militery command, the Franco-German corps will be the core of the new European army."


I'm relieved now. Thanks.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Pekka
SupppaCitttizen powerfull
He's a fighter like a bull
He calls the right, he calls the wrong
He is the one who HITS THE GOOOOOOOOOOONG!!!

I have to say, this is genious.

[MrBaggins]

the Franco-German corps will be the core of the new European army.

Won't that cause a bit of a rift, what with the French capitulating, at the drop of a hat?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
Won't that cause a bit of a rift, what with the French capitulating, at the drop of a hat?

We only capitulate to Germans, so it's all right

[MrBaggins]

COMPLETE MILITARY HISTORY OF FRANCE


Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars -- when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flower pots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League / King William's War / French and Indian War -Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved ever since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu.

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkish Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

[Sprayber]

I only have one question. Is Greece, France's and Germany's *****? If so, why do they continue to lick their collective ass's. Do the French and Germans have something really dirty on the Greeks..

[Spiffor]

At least the 4th time I see this one on 'Poly.

[Harovan]

The 7th.

[MrBaggins]

and it never gets old, in the repeating, eh?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Spiffor
At least the 4th time I see this one on 'Poly.

then answer my question. what do you have on the Greeks that make them such wonderful loyal trusted *****es.