Hey PC Techies, how in a flying newts bridal bath is this possible?!!

[Thorn]

http://www.theproduct.de/

In here there are some graphical demos that are pretty impressive, they use my 3d card to its fullest... nice music usage too, some with vocals.... these demos process almost 2 gigabytes worth of data, there is only one thing out of the ordinary about them. THEY ARE only 64KB!!!

According to their site they have a compression ratio of 30,000:1.... so let me get this straight in my head... if that kind of compression become publically available... Then a person would be able to download every song ever recorded onto a floppy disk, and easily copy it to their friends.... nay they could put several DVDs on a floppy... this would finish the music industry, and don't forget the internet possiblities... fully 3d accelerated webpages download almost instantly 56k or smaller modems?!!!

If they can put 2 GB of information into 64kb imagine how much information could be stored on a regular 4.5 GB DVD, 700MB CD, hell zip disk....

As of now they are not selling this technology to anyone.

You maybe I might be able to fathom it better if just the demo is 64kb... however, this 64kb includes the program, a kick a$$ synthesizer, the decompressor, and the necessary programming to communicate with windows and modern video cards!!?!!

CAN SOMEONE SAVE ME FROM A HEARTATTACK OVER DISBELIEF, HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!!!

I mean data is stored in bytes... they would have to be storing information millions of time smaller then bytes, plus complicated algorithms, but how would that work with a windows program, geez I didn't even think there were windows programs anymore that were as small as 64kb.

$hit my papers for school take up about 32kb....

Help me I am very very very lost....

[Winston]

Simple, they took a black hole and put it on a floppy, then copied to C:\Windows\ and from there it was plain sailing.

[Hueij]

Yeah, a friend of mine mailed me one of their movies. It was really amazing, over 5 minutes 3d in only 64kB.

But don't ask me how they did it

Oh, about small windows programs? I use Eyedropper every day and it's only 26kB

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Winston
Simple, they took a black hole and put it on a floppy, then copied to C:\Windows\ and from there it was plain sailing.

That sounds more reasonable then their explanation....

[Combat Ingrid]

Very impressive!
My guess is that this program doesn't really contain the information seen on the screen, but rather tells the computer to generate the shapes and textures. Like "make a ball with this diameter and fill it with a mix of this and that colour". If you think about it, the textures are actually extremely simple and repetitive, and so is the music

[Alex]

wow, i admit i'm impressed with this.

[Thorn]

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid
Very impressive!
My guess is that this program doesn't really contain the information seen on the screen, but rather tells the computer to generate the shapes and textures. Like "make a ball with this diameter and fill it with a mix of this and that colour". If you think about it, the textures are actually extremely simple and repetitive, and so is the music

You know maybe I could understand that... kinda like programming in assembly (machine code), but there is one bit of a problem with this theory.... you would need a large frontend to interpret the generator... and both of those are built into that 64kb!!?

[Whoha]

First off they probably had their compression thing sitting there for a month or so looking for the best possible compression.

Second doing win32 gui stuff is pretty cheap on executable size.

third they might be doing some stuff with libraries that are already on the computer.

Other then that, pure black magic, burn the witches.

[mrmitchell]

Wowza.

[Az]

Combat Ingrid's theory is the most reasonable. well, almost. That black hole...

[Az]

still, how the ****... all of the grafic engine ( Half Life quality, me think) ... the music is explainable.. somehow...

VERY IMPRESSIVE.

[Thorn]

Right I watched the demo again... the compression ratio according to them is actually not 8000:1 like I said, but 30,000:1.....

Still the instructions necessary to tell a computer how to draw that detailed of stuff would take up megabytes..... that black hole... best theory.

[mrmitchell]

Although, I wonder how large it would be if you added EVERYTHING they use--for example, directx, etc. It would of course balloon.

[Ben Kenobi]

That black hole

Not hard to store information...

I'd want to see how they extract the data.

[Az]

Well, obviously, various drivers are used. But still... I wasn't aware that there is a graphic engine lying around in windows.