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Payback - French, Germans and Russians barred from Iraq contracts
Originally posted by PLATO
Countries that did not participate are excluded from management roles but not from getting work in Iraq. Why would anyone want France training and equiping the Iraqi Army anyway? It seems obvious that they already know how to turn tail and run.
This is exactly the stupid kind of comments that is fuelling an anti-american feeling that should not be. Keep on with this behavior but don't expect the other countries and their inhabitant to be sympathetic with you.
As far as I am concerned I am not surprised that the USA excluded the countries opposed to their policy from the contracts, I would even say that this is normal as the priority should be given to those that have paid the price of this war.
"Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill
Originally posted by rixxe
I think the french deserve it, but not the russians and the germans.
The frogs were against the war because THEY broke the embargo there was against Irak by signing contracts to extract and export oil. And they knew that if the iraki government was to collapse, those contrats would become worthless... Here's partly why they were that much against the war...
Very well!
This is certainly one of the most laughable thing I have ever read about the subject. Stop reading tabloids!
Can I remind you that France was not opposed to a war against Irak but that it was opposed to a war waged outside of the UN and that this policy was shared by Germany and Russia. If you want France to be the scapegoat, so be it and have fun, but a bit of subtelty can not hurt.
"Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill
WTF?!! Why are we banned? How come I didn't even know that?
Our former PM went to talk to Bush, and they were all kisses and hugs, and we were talking about being in 'coalition if the willing', not the ones that act on it, but that we don't condemn it, and that we are there hearing when they make decisions, even military type of things and that we were still invited there and we went.
I say the reasoning for this is ok, but I don't understand why we are excluded, that's BS.
In da butt.
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This is exactly the stupid kind of comments that is fuelling an anti-american feeling that should not be. Keep on with this behavior but don't expect the other countries and their inhabitant to be sympathetic with you.
As far as I am concerned I am not surprised that the USA excluded the countries opposed to their policy from the contracts, I would even say that this is normal as the priority should be given to those that have paid the price of this war.
As if I care if France is sympathetic? France is pathetic with the policies that they are persuing. They actively seek to undermine their allies and we should just smile because they say that they are trying to do the right thing? They tell other European leaders to "shut up" when voicing support for US policy and threaten them with blocking EU membership. Who the f**k do they think they are? I'll tell you...they are a third rate country that has a long history of collapsing in the face of adversity. No trial is to small to send the French packing. They seek to posture their positions based on some false sense of past glory. My comments fuel anti-american behavior? Ha! Where do you think that my thoughts came from...it was from the ignorant French policy and the way that they run from crisis and stab allies in the back. Get them to quit being idiots and that will stop the anti-French feelings which is the only thing that will stop Americans from feeling the way we do.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
OK, I have reached page 14 of this thread and read PLATO's reply and that is enough... anti-american feelings is the only thing you deserve with such behavior. I should have not replied to this thread as it seems there is no way to have a real discussion in this thread.
I won't read anything more as I have never been anti-american... and moreover I don't want to become one.
Have fun mocking me and the French...
"Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill
Originally posted by Tamerlin
OK, I have reached page 14 of this thread and read PLATO's reply and that is enough... anti-american feelings is the only thing you deserve with such behavior. I should have not replied to this thread as it seems there is no way to have a real discussion in this thread.
I won't read anything more as I have never been anti-american... and moreover I don't want to become one.
Have fun mocking me and the French...
Truth hurts? Sorry.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
bush still needs to work on his timing. hit them up first for what they can do for you and get that in writing, then smack them in the back of the head.
that way, if they renege, they look like asses and you come out looking like roses.
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