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  • Replace the **** with the "F word" (As the neocons so nicely put it )
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    • Patroklos, I think you hit the nail on the head concerning many anti-American protestors. Their no matter what we do, we are wrong. If we want to liberate Iraq, we are greedy because we want the oil If we want help in reconstruction, we are greedy because we caused all the problems in the first place - so we should go fix them on our own dime. If we lavish mountains of American taxpayer dollars on Iraq to help their reconstruction we are greedy for keeping the money in the family of those who sacrificed in the cause of liberation.

      It is a wonder that any American or Coalition partner could want to be allies and friends with the likes of Germany and France. How many times do they have to betray us before we realize they are no longer on our side. When we find Iraq stuffed full of new French and Russian weapons, what does this mean? When we find that Germany was providing technical expertise in killing humans by the scores, why are we surprised given their history?

      Annan and some coalition leftists are decrying the action as devisive. They call for "healing."

      But what steps have the betrayers taken to mend the wounds with America, its coalition partners and the people of Iraq whom they also betrayed? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. And yet they still have the audacity to complain?

      We need adequate words to describe this level of duplicity, backstabbing and betrayal. Carpetbaggers is good. But is it sufficient?
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      • The entire world is against you, Ned
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        • hehe, yeah. no WMDs have been found yet and no WMDs won´t be found anymore. but Ned knows exactly who delivered them.
          justice is might

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          • Fez couldn't have said it better than Ned.

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            • Thanks for the compliment guys. Actually, I think I outdo Fez.
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              • When it comes to being a right-winger you do. However you dont have that "Throwemoutofaheli" type personality that Fez has
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                • Originally posted by Ned
                  Patroklos, I think you hit the nail on the head concerning many anti-American protestors. Their no matter what we do, we are wrong. If we want to liberate Iraq, we are greedy because we want the oil If we want help in reconstruction, we are greedy because we caused all the problems in the first place - so we should go fix them on our own dime. If we lavish mountains of American taxpayer dollars on Iraq to help their reconstruction we are greedy for keeping the money in the family of those who sacrificed in the cause of liberation.

                  It is a wonder that any American or Coalition partner could want to be allies and friends with the likes of Germany and France. How many times do they have to betray us before we realize they are no longer on our side. When we find Iraq stuffed full of new French and Russian weapons, what does this mean? When we find that Germany was providing technical expertise in killing humans by the scores, why are we surprised given their history?

                  Annan and some coalition leftists are decrying the action as devisive. They call for "healing."

                  But what steps have the betrayers taken to mend the wounds with America, its coalition partners and the people of Iraq whom they also betrayed? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. And yet they still have the audacity to complain?

                  We need adequate words to describe this level of duplicity, backstabbing and betrayal. Carpetbaggers is good. But is it sufficient?
                  Regardless of what the left wingers who want to look at the world through rose colored glasses think, this is the plain truth.

                  Well said Ned.
                  "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                  • Originally posted by PLATO


                    Well said Ned.
                    Yes.

                    The fundamental question whether carpetbagger is sufficiently describing betrayal, backstabbing and duplicity has never been so clearly exposed.
                    Statistical anomaly.
                    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                    • Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
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                      • The countries which didn't buy the nonsense about WMDs are now being punished for being correct.

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                        • This thread has been Nedded now.

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                          • rabid politics.

                            there's no hope for mankind now.
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                            • A couple of things are odd about this. Bush is wrong that American taxpayers expect the contracts to go to American or coalition contractors. Rather, American taxpayers expect the contracts to go to just American contractors, not those of the coalition. This is a good blocking action by Bush against potential internal criticism, when some contracts are awarded to the Japanese or Koreans. Besides, we don't lose anything, because these countries aren't helping us anyhow (besides Canada).

                              And this thought that Iraq's debt repayments are somehow tied to American-funded contracts doesn't make any sense. Iraq's debts aren't our debts. Further, while the reconstruction may make Iraq more able to pay off its debts, it would still only be able to work with a much reduced debt load.

                              I noticed that Schroeder wisely didn't take the bait on this issue and insisted on keeping the two issues separate. Otherwise, he would have to find a balancing justification for this contracts issue, when he gets down to the inevitable writing off a good portion of Germany's loans to Iraq.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


                                Or Tehran
                                But apparently Bush didn't quite think of that
                                Where do you think we're going when Iraq is settled?

                                As I've said before, this was just the first step.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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