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  • Originally posted by Q Cubed
    profit is still different from an unfair tax.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • Originally posted by Skyjack666


      Well, then, that's on THEIR conscience...if they have one.
      If one can stop a crime but doesn't, they are just as guilty as the person who commited it
      And trust me: Russia has *NO* conscience.
      Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
      Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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      • Originally posted by paiktis22
        Only in barbaric times.
        Times are always barbaric!
        Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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        • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
          And trust me: Russia has *NO* conscience.
          But we've got such a big soul instead!
          Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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          • Actuall Shroeder and Chirac have been too kind to you, they should have warned you more strongly.

            "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

            "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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            • Originally posted by Skyjack666
              Well, then, that's on THEIR conscience...if they have one.
              /me finds the irony of that statement is waaay too much.
              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • I hope the Bush administration isnt stupid enough to really expect anti-war countries selling their principals for lousy 19 billion, or probably much less.

                What surprises me is that Russia hasnt played tough on US yet. I mean in the Soviet days...
                Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                - Paul Valery

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                • I never been as embarrassed to be an american as today

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                  • I know. If the US wants to play hardball, then Russia should step up and play.
                    Especially now that the tide has turned quite violently against the US.
                    Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                    Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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                    • I wonder if the excluded countries can sue under the WTO and/or NAFTA (in the case of Canada)?


                      Why? After all, these are government contracts paid for by American taxpayers. Really, all this is is formalizing something. We could have allowed those companies to make a bid, but then pick an American company in the end.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • but shouldn't the best company for the job be considered? That is the most logical thing to do.

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                        • The axis of weasel lack of support for the war, their supplying of weapons to Saddam, their lack of support or contribution to the reconostruction and their insistence on payment in full of outstanding debts will not be forgotten -- by the people of Iraq.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • I knew this was going to be a problem months ago. As an individual who loathes NAFTA/WTO, this is in violation of the WTO. The reason the administration says this is a security issue is because that's the only exception. So it seems WTO is good only when it favors the Bush adminstration and US companies. Some of the press is starting to pick up on this, that's how I found out about the security exception.

                            However, the Europeans and Russia should be careful. Some economists/theorists/talking heads have discussed, damn I can't remember the technical phrase, but the idea that debts incurred by vicious dictators to kill their own people while raping their country's resources are not enforcable on those people once they get rid of the bastard. Debts for genuine economic development would be honored, but not weapons, palaces, bribes, kick-backs, tec. Of course the entire industrial world is terrified of this. I would love to see the new Iraqi council, once they have their own government, do exactly that. Including any US debts from prior to the first Gulf War .
                            The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                            And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                            Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                            Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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                            • Commie T, are you willing to put that to a vote in Iraq?
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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