Teens are diging themselfs an early grave

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by David Floyd
The world doesn't produce anything. Individuals throughout the world produce goods and services.

/me checks DF's temperature

What's wrong with you? Stoned? Where did you think we get crude oil and coal from? What about all the minerals? We don't produce food either, it's simply grown in nature and we harvest the results.

*shakes head at DF's silliness*

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Sure it is. If Grog chisels out a crude wheel, I doubt seriously that he'll just let Ug take it.

"Natural" as "exists in nature." Your example doesn't counter Sava's point.

[David Floyd]

UR,

"Natural" as "exists in nature." Your example doesn't counter Sava's point.

It counters his implied point that government/"society" is a prerequisite of property.

What's wrong with you? Stoned? Where did you think we get crude oil and coal from? What about all the minerals? We don't produce food either, it's simply grown in nature and we harvest the results.

Try actually reading the debate. There is also a concept in the English language known is "context". I realize that English may not be your first language, but I'm sure whatever your first language is also utilizing the concept of "context" as well.

Just in case, though, allow me to explain. In this particular case, the context was "food". Che or Theben (I forget who) tried to tell me that the world produces enough food to feed everyone. I pointed out that that statement was quite false - individuals produce food. Sure, SOME food grows naturally, I'm sure - certainly not enough to fulfill the requirement of feeding everyone on the planet, of course.

If the context was oil or gold or whatever, then you might have a point, but then again I wouldn't have made the argument I did to begin with. Food is what we were talking about.

So, in summation, the three words of the day are "Context, context, and context."

[The Mad Monk]

No, I'd have to go with DF on that -- just like people produce food by investing in the equipment and using it to plant, raise , and harvest, people have to invest in equipement and mine or drill for the coal and oil -- without people there to take and process it, it just sits uselessly in the ground.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And what debt might this be? A debt implies a contract, and a contract implies two parties willingly entering into an agreement. Your example fails that test.

So it'd be ok by you if the parents decided they didn't want to take on this voluntary raising of the child and just laid it on the side of the road to fend for itself?

if the only source of funding for the police was in contributions, would you contribute something? I certainly would

I'd let everyone else pay for it and take advantage . Kind of like a tragedy of the commons problem.

[Solly]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Glad to know I'm a social outcast...

Not every college student drinks, some much prefer to go out and party rather than getting hammered every weekend.

Cheaper too.

No doubt it is cheaper, but I doubt your knowledge of British teenagers' social scene is as extensive as some people's on this thread.

[Asmodean]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
Most like to binge drink and it is during these times that friendships draw closer and relationships develop.

IF they can remember it the next day

Asmodean

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Japher
Two words: The 70s

They can't be any worse than all you geezers who were teens in the 70s. can they?

When I do the math I realize that I was indeed a teenager in the 70s. I wonder what that was like.

[Theben]

DF:

Any other response would be using emotion to determine morality.

And that never happens. Wait, what's the basis for determining morality again?

Christ, Dave, even Imran mellowed out after 5 years. You sad, sick, puppy.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Bull****

The context was the 70's. How old were you then?

H and cocaine didnt become fashionable until the 80's. Freebasing was only for the wealthy.
PCP never heard of it (in those days)
speed ............was around but not much used by teens
glue........... only for the moron kiddies

EDIT - It came to mind that I think of the pre-disco days as the 70's. DISCO SUCKS

Since you checked yourself, I won't comment much.

Until Heroin returned with a vengence in the 90s, heroin's heyday in the U.S. was the late '60s and early '70s, when it was being sold to our soldiers in Vietnam, and back on the streets of the U.S. I'll be non-political and simply say that our active proximity to the Golden Triangle made it much easier to smuggle it back into the U.S.

I first heard about PCP in 5th or 6th grade, which puts it in the '77 to '79 range. It's always been a fringe drug, but it was still available

Speed may not have been much of a problem where you lived, but our schools seemed to think it was.

Finally, you ignored the most dangerous drug on my list, alcohol. I got my first swig o' beer from some high school kids drinkin' near the swimming pool. They thought it was cool giving beer to a 6th grader.

[Imran Siddiqui]

even Imran mellowed out after 5 years.

Says who?!! Argh!

(and what's that 'even' crap )

[Enigma_Nova]

Originally posted by Starchild
It's depressing isn't it? I mean, was I just a late bloomer or are all kids these days alcoholic sluts?

Nup. In fact, I'd say that AT LEAST 2% of the adolescents I know are responsible. (Not higher than 10% though)

[Enigma_Nova]

Tell you what. You tell me where your family and friends are, and I'll try to arrange having them killed as long as you never have to pay taxes again. I'm sure you'd jump at that opportunity.

Sounds like a good choice...
Can I have the family assasination thing too, or is this offer non-universal?

[Theben]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
(and what's that 'even' crap )

It means you're the most generous of us all.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Enigma_Nova

Sounds like a good choice...
Can I have the family assasination thing too, or is this offer non-universal?

Only if you prove to me you're a libertyrant.