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    christianity and communism are fundamentally opposed.

    I know, this is random, but i was thinking (surprising as it may be) that Christianity and Communism are inherently at odds.

    I think it is probably safe to say that the foundation of christian virtues is in the 10 commandments.

    one of the commandments is "Thou shalt not steal"

    Of course, without property, there can be no theft, and in communism, there is no property.

    So, hypothetically speaking of course, let's assume there is a God, and God is as described in the Christian tradition. If there is God, and he is enduring, he would want his doctrine to be enduring, and transcendant of time and social change. If this is true, and God is all knowing, the it follows that Communism is practically impossible, now and in the future, otherwise the commandment would not be worded as it is.

    sorry to ramble, i'll run away now...
    "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

    "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."
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  • #2
    Unless property is theft.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

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    • #3
      Who did you steal your computer and clothes from?
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #4
        Isn't it bad enough that I gave Che a hard time with my own similar thread a couple of months ago?
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #5
          ya lost me dino...
          "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

          "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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          • #6
            damn, fun and i are starting to make similar posts? i'm going to go find a very tall building to jump off of...
            "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

            "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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            • #7
              one of the commandments is "Thou shalt not steal"

              Of course, without property, there can be no theft, and in communism, there is no property.
              But there is property under communism, it was just stolen.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kaak
                ya lost me dino...
                Probably because I was responding to Ramo's comment.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #9
                  If property is theft, then theft is property, and if I steal something it is mine

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                  • #10
                    when i was refering to communism, i was refering to true communism, not the poor attempts at it reflected in the "real world"
                    "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                    "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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                    • #11
                      Who did you steal your computer and clothes from?
                      The workers of Dell (how apropos Kaak is here ). As they ought to own the means of production, Micheal Dell is using state power to enforce appropriation of the computers from his employees, and I thus bought unjustly confiscated goods. The same goes with my clothes as my wardrobe almost entirely consists of Dell propaganda.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #12
                        Micheal Dell is using state power to enforce appropriation of the computers from his employees
                        Those employees agreed to make the computers and give them to Dell.

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                        • #13
                          Only because the employees of Dell were forced to do so (or for a similar capitalist organization).
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kaak
                            damn, fun and i are starting to make similar posts? i'm going to go find a very tall building to jump off of...
                            I've always felt that libertarians and commies are cra . . .

                            er, different.




                            Anyway, when I created that thread, it got Che's panties all bunched up -- it was only similar, in that I was poking fun at the communist pipe dream.
                            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                            • #15
                              Actually, your trolls are totally lame, MrFun. If you want to see how it's done, observe.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                              -Bokonon

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