Marcus, your family is a "dirty word."

[Bereta_Eder]

Re: Marcus, your family is a "dirty word."

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Under "What I should have done," Marcus wrote: "Cep my mouf shut."

Aw the poor boy... That really makes me mad.

"I will never use the word 'gay' in school again,"

That's pretty ****ed up too.

and that officials apologize to the boy and his mother.

That's absolutely necessairy and I wonder about his teacher's credentials for remaining at her job. And the school's administration too if it didn't take corrective measures against her and apologize to child and mother.

[General Ludd]

This puts interesting perspective on the "gays can't raise children properly" argument, too. Apparently not, because the bigots won't let them.

[Ben Kenobi]

So long as the child isn't describing graphic sexual or other intimate acts, it's the child's right to describe the nature of his parent's relationship as much as it is anyone else. Why can other children talk freely about having a mommy and daddy, but not one who has two mommies?

Boris:

My letter has your rebuttal. I would not prevent him from talking about his adopted family, but merely from the sexual preferences.

I remember being in grade 7 and asking about how gay people 'do' it, and having my teacher hem and haw. Now, if it is inappropriate for a 12 year old, it is also inappropriate for a 6 year old.

[Boris Godunov]

As a teacher of your son's kindergarten class, certain comments he made have raised my concerns. Just yesterday, when asked by another child as to his religion, he responded that he was Christian.

While I do not agree with this belif, it is every parent's right to have a say in their child's welfare. Just as I would not wish to interfere with the religions of other children, I will not interfere with yours.

That being said, I feel discussion of what it means to be Christian as inappropriate for a kindergarten class and will raise the ire of many other parents who wish to protect their children. Therefore, I ask that you instruct your child to talk about his religion, because, as we all know, your religion ought to have no bearing on your child rearing.

*****

The double standard inherit in BK's proposed letter is astounding. So should a kid be prevented from talking about his mommy and daddy as well, or does the silence rule only apply to gay parents?

Where does a public school get off trying to "protect" someone's kid from knowing that some kids have 2 parents of the same gender? I don't recall of any right to not have your kid exposed to different values.

[Starchild]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Starchild:



No, it would probably have been more along the lines of:

If I was the mum that got that note, I'd have responded back with one saying that I don't agree with single parents arrangements and that, for the safety and protection of my child you see, they should also be forbidden from being discussed.

While we're at it, I don't agree with children being raised by grandparents, aunts and uncles, step-parents, or any of the other variety of family arrangements we accept without thinking. For my child's protection, I think it's highly inappropriate to talk about such things as divorce or being born outside of marriage.

If my child can't discuss his family, I see no reason to let any child discuss their own family.

[Thorn]

Kenobi you are sinner burn in hell for all eternity!

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Boris:

My letter has your rebuttal. I would not prevent him from talking about his adopted family, but merely from the sexual preferences.

I remember being in grade 7 and asking about how gay people 'do' it, and having my teacher hem and haw. Now, if it is inappropirate for a 12 year old, it is also inapporpriate for a 6 year old.

Wherein did Marcus describe how his parents "do it?"

Marcus "told the other child that gay is when a girl likes a girl"

As was said, his description is as tame and innocuous as one can imagine. The kid spoke the truth, and it was devoid of any explicitness or luridness. Saying he can't say what he said is simply censorship based on prejudice, and it has no place in a public school.

[Kuciwalker]

Starchild: @ that letter

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Boris:

My letter has your rebuttal. I would not prevent him from talking about his adopted family, but merely from the sexual preferences.

I remember being in grade 7 and asking about how gay people 'do' it, and having my teacher hem and haw. Now, if it is inappropriate for a 12 year old, it is also inappropriate for a 6 year old.

It's no wonder there's an HIV and teen pregnancy epidemic with attitudes like this. It's never to soon to learn about sex.

I was taught about sex, by my parents, before I even started school. And it's just aswell, 'cause it put me ahead of the school-yard talk. You'll find that kids this age will talk about sex alot more freely than most adults do, and they'll explore each other's bodies, too. Keeping them in the closet and treating sex like some sort of unspeakable taboo is just going to make them ignorant and confused.

[Kuciwalker]

I remember being in grade 7 and asking about how gay people 'do' it, and having my teacher hem and haw. Now, if it is inappropriate for a 12 year old, it is also inappropriate for a 6 year old.

The kid wasn't explaining the mechanics of it.

[Thorn]

Kenobi you are in immoral person your very existence poisens society. Think of the children you wretch, do you want their minds intoxicated with your filthy habits. I move to ban you from Apolyton.

[Thorn]

Figure if I have to read about this kind of stuff, that someone on your end ought to.

[Dr Strangelove]

The word "gay" is vernacular and often used as a perjorative. Perhaps the boy should have used the word "homosexual" or "lesbian".

If the teacher permits one child to use the word "gay", will she be able to prevent other children from using it as a perjorative? hese are after all only second graders. It may be beyond their abilities to discriminate between the legitimate use of the word and the derogatory form.

What if Billy's dad's dad never married his dad's mom? Would Billy be allowed to refer to grandad as an "old bastard?"

[Ben Kenobi]

Ah.

No wonder.

/me dons flamesuit.

Much better.

I'm going to eat and then dissect each of your statements.

I suggest that you re-read my letter. I do not prevent the child from saying that he has two moms.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
The word "gay" is vernacular and often used as a perjorative. Perhaps the boy should have used the word "homosexual" or "lesbian".

If the teacher permits one child to use the word "gay", will she be able to prevent other children from using it as a perjorative? hese are after all only second graders. It may be beyond their abilities to discriminate between the legitimate use of the word and the derogatory form.

What if Billy's dad's dad never married his dad's mom? Would Billy be allowed to refer to grandad as an "old bastard?"

They raise an issue with him explaining what 'gay' means, ie. that his mother likes other women. If he had used it in the negative context, I have a feeling that he wouldn't of gotten in as much trouble.