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  • #61
    PH, sorry to hear that. I don't know what you should do, so I'm not trying to give you any advices but one. If you go down, drag them with you. All the way. Fight the power! They drew the first blood.. If it's 100% sure you'll be screwed over, screw them as much as you can without getting into trouble with the cops doing it.
    In da butt.
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    • #62
      Well the thing that is in my favour is that they are in breach of contract. I was given a month probationary period which I passed with flying colours, and my good work continued. But unlike your example Gibsie, there were no reasons for dismissal whatsoever apart from their flimsy, concocted excuse. And as someone said, it has only been a month or so, the agency that employed me seems very positive about me going by my phonecall on Friday with them (I am seeing them in person in Leeds on Monday morning). And as the duration was short I can easily work my way around it. But I do want my satisfaction.

      Oh Stew, yeah, the whole PhD thing...it was different because I was dissatisfied about the whole situation but I resigned my PhD and it was acknowledged on both sides that things had gone wrong and it was a mutual parting. They provided me with a good reference and made it easy for me to get Jobseekers Allowance. All parties involved agreed I wasn't cut out for the academic life, something they realised more clearly before I did. Hence I have been more successful in an academic environment. My relations with my former department have been cordial, hell, I've been in to help them with trials pretty recently in fact (as a paid volunteer of course, but I certainly wish them all the luck in what they do).

      But I will get another job, my experience is too earthscorching to do otherwise
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Provost Harrison


        They've given me almost double my notice periods worth. I think they are trying to pay me off. You see, they have no real reason for dismissal, and if they don't prove this within 14 days of dismissal, they are automatically culpable. The person who has to demand this proof is me. In other words, I have them by the knackers because I am under contract. And another point, they never gave me my pay rise of nearly £2000 a year, which after a month of employment they are contractually obliged to do. They are so far in the wrong you wouldn't believe.
        Sounds like you've got an excellent case, get a good lawyer and nail these bastards to the wall.
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        • #64
          that sucks provo... FIGHT THE POWER$%^#$%^#$% DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!!!$%^$%^#$

          good luck to you...

          for $20k US and travel expenses, I'll kill them for you...
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            In most of America the law is that employers are "at will" employers who can fire their people at will. Of course if you've worked there for more then 90 days the bastards have to pay for you unemployment benifets and possibly a severence package but that's it.
            Actually the employee only needs to work 1 day to get something if the employer fubars the firing cause enough. Or if the employer doesn't send a rep before the judge and the employee or his rep does show (during a unemployment hearing), the judge will almost always side with the employee. The EEOC is very willing to listen to cases of bad or neglectful management, and prescribe legal counsel.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Oerdin
              Most jobs in the US aren't union so it's hard to find union jobs. I know Crunchy is in Oz but I'd bet Oz has the same low union rates the US has.
              The job I was talking about was the one I had in the UK before I left.
              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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              • #67
                Under English law an employee has a statutory right not to be unfairly dismissed but only after he or she has completed 12 months continuous employment with the employer.

                So, subject to what the particular contract may stipulate, an employer is free to dismiss a recent employee capriciously without coming under an obligation of law to pay compensation.

                That said, if the employer dismisses the employee on grounds of sex, race, disability or gender reassignment compensation is payable however short the period of employment.

                (Age, sexual orientation and religion are in the process oif being added to that list but are not included at the moment.)

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                • #68
                  *Rubs eyes*
                  *Rubs eyes again*

                  Hello EST!

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                  • #69
                    I thought that had been tightened up considerably lately EST?

                    And there is another point, apparently there is a three month period where the contract states that either party can terminate the contract with a month's notice. However there is no statement as to whether reason has to be given. What would apply in this case?

                    I think the petrol bomb will be my only course of revenge at this point
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #70
                      Nope, one year.

                      Looks like these f**kers have successfully arse raped me with no reason...sickening.
                      Speaking of Erith:

                      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                      • #71
                        Why? I mean why? I just think I am getting sorted and the rug is so cruelly pulled from beneath my feet. Did I have a tattoo that says '**** me over' tattooed on my forehead?

                        I don't want remarkable luck, I don't want riches beyond my wildest dreams, I just want a normal life, to be acknowledged for my skills and abilities, not to be resented at every turn. Everything that can go wrong does go wrong. Even if something seems to work out for once it never seems to be anything other than a carrot dangled to tantalise me.

                        F**k this country, f**k this society, f**k this world, I have done nothing to deserve this
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #72
                          I just want a normal life, to be acknowledged for my skills and abilities, not to be resented at every turn.
                          Doesnt sound a normal life to me...
                          Desperados of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but your dignity.......
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                          • #73
                            EST sighting +1!!!
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #74
                              But what is it with these people? I haven't done anything wrong whatsoever but they have obviously taken delight in trying to make life as hard for me as possible.
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #75
                                People love hurting others and causing emotional pain. I think what they did to you is completely wrong, but its completely fruitless to try and find a reason for it. Just accept they are bastards and move on.
                                Desperados of the world, unite. You have nothing to lose but your dignity.......
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