Should Congress Be Expanded?

[Ben Kenobi]

Hard to blame Quebec nationalists for looking after the best interests of Quebec over Canada.

And yet you still say..

welcome a solution made in Western Canada to a Confederation they do not see as broken.

The whole issue with Quebec has served to highlight the problems of Confederation. I do not support the actions of the Quebec nationalists to deface the Confederation, but you either build it up or tear it down. According to the Quebec nationalists, Confederation is broken, and has been so for some time.

Anytime we come within 1% of losing the second most populous province speaks to me the need for reform. Who better to lead the charge than the west, with our share of grievances yet always wanting to keep Canada together? Yet we see the Liberals appease Quebec for their disloyalty, and we wonder, why not?

while being led down the garden path by the pied piper of forlorn hopes.

Embodied by Joe Who.

[notyoueither]

Last word.

Joe did a pretty good job of consolidating and rebuilding in the East while the West was following Preston down the garden path.

And, as long as you and enough others think that Westerners are going to ride into Ottawa atop a protest movement and change things will be as long as the West is shut out of power in Canada. Decide for yourselves how long that will be.

[Ben Kenobi]

Thanks for the discussion, NYE.

And by doing a merger, we've made our decision. We want to be a part of things, even if that means moderating some of the Western protest party imagery. The protest party people would see this merger as diluting the qualities of Refooorm.

I've got to go to bed myself. Got a long day tomorrow.

It's a shame they didn't give into their more mischievious sides by calling this new part, Confooorm!

[David Floyd]

I personally think that all major bills involving tax increases, decreases, or spending more than 10% of the budget, or any new entitlement programs should be voted on directly by the people.

No thank you! I don't want poor people directly voting in massive entitlement programs so they can sit on their asses!

[Arrian]

Solid Canadian politics threadjack, fellas.

That seems to happen a lot. Who knew our northern neighbors were so into politics? They might even get worked up enough to write a letter!

-Arrian

[Garth Vader]

Why write a letter when you can gripe on some internet gaming forum

[Ned]

Originally posted by David Floyd


No thank you! I don't want poor people directly voting in massive entitlement programs so they can sit on their asses!

Note, David, I did not say that they must originate with the people, only that they must be approved by the people.

In "Kali-"fornia, direct democracy, on the whole, has been "conservative." The people here have lowered taxes and recalled an incompetent governor. The people who tend to be against direct democracy are the Democrats.

[SpencerH]

Re: Should Congress Be Expanded?

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Adam Smith made a point in another thread about rules and regs made by Congress, which got me to thinking. Then the 690 page Kill-Medicare bill was just passed, which was only given to legislators last week, hardly enough time to read the bill.

I was thinking, 635 really isn'ta all that many to be able to specialize in the various bills the Congress needs to deal with.

So, should we increase the size of Congress so we can have more committees with less subjects?

No. Why would we need to pay more of these morons to handwave over things they cannot comprehend no matter how much time they have?

[Ben Kenobi]

Solid Canadian politics threadjack, fellas.

Been awhile since we've had one, and willing Canadian participants. Look at the times for NYE and myself, both up quite late last night.

That's why they are sorta rare.

I'm still waiting for che's response to what we did to his thread.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Actually, a former college professor of mine (a Republican, to boot... wierd, I know.. like the only Republican teaching at Rutgers ), said that we should DRAMATICALLY increase the House of Representatives, up to 2000 members. Even though there is low voter turnout having so many districts means that certain groups of people are well representated. Right now districts contain very different groups, some have industrial, rural, and commercial areas all wedged into one. Having more districts would seperate the areas and have them better representated.

Even though it'd cost more in renovating Congress and office space, I'm totally for it! 2000 Representatives baby! Senate stays the same, though... or rather goes back to being by state legislature vote .

Of course this has NOTHING to do with che's original post which was a total non sequiter and a jump of monumental proportions from a bill to more Congressmen .

[Japher]

Any time some one begins a sentence with "A college professor of mine says" I automatically know that what is to follow is liberabal hogswallow/BS. Though once someone did regurgitate some good ol' fashion Republican TRUTH, but they really had no idea what they had just said...

[Imran Siddiqui]

"A college professor of mine says" I automatically know that what is to follow is liberabal hogswallow/BS.

He was a dyed in wool Republican, if you read beyond that .

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Considering that more BC folks than Prairie people voted for the Alliance tells me that the party attracts folks from all over

Ummm...by "all over" do you mean from BC to Man.? Because you still have a problem in that that region of the country onlu contains 30% of its population.

How's the alliance doing recently? I haven't seen any poll numbers since they posted in 4th place.

[Lefty Scaevola]

More congressmen would mean more pork spending, I would rather reduce numbers, cutting the house by 20% to 50% and reducing senators to 1 per state. Gerrymandering would then also be more difficult wiht larger districts (or at least more silly looking).

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It was Preston and Refoooooorm, along with a Western snit fit that ran the Tories into the ground. Again, if the same energy were put into the Tories as was put into Reform, the Liberals would not have had a cake walk the last time around.

Why did this happen? Half of Mulroney's cabinet was from Alberta and BC, practically. His successor was from BC, and a smart woman to boot. The West had its best time in power in Ottawa up til that time in Confederation, or since. But noooooo, that was not good enough for us. We needed to exclude ourselves. We needed Refooooooooorm!

10 seats? How are you counting the last election where the Right got 78 out of 301 seats?

Hell, I agree with everything's NYE's saying. Though of course, I encourage as much extremism among Western conservatives as possible, given that our goals diverge...