Georgia

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
What?! He is not a friend of Moscow.

Yes he is. Putin did put a lot of pressure on him for allowing Chechens to stay in his country. However when Sjevardnadse was ousted Russia sent its foreign minister dwon there. They had a photo op where they were holding hands. I take that as a message showing where loyalties are.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Saras
Who in their right mind would rejoin Russia voluntarily?..

They may not be in their right mind, but it's a fact that Abkhazia has been willing to join Russia for the last 10 years at least. Is it usual for you to dismiss facts that contradict your world view, Saras?

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
In any case it would be a violation of Georgian sovereignty. After lectures from Russia on the importance of soveriegnty wrt 1. Iraq 2. Kosovo 3. Chechnya it will be very interesting to see Russia annex Abkazia or South Ossetia against the will of the Republic of Georgia. Do you suppose Russia will then grant independence to Chechnya, and support the independence of Kosovo?

We were talking about their desire to join Russia. It doesn't mean that Russia will ever grant their plea. So what the hell are you talking about? In fact, the official Russian position is that they are and should remain a part of Georgia.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Whats hardcore about him? As far as I can tell he only insists on Georgian sovereignty, and opposes meddling by Russia.

OK, let's say that he is simply a nationalist, and the autonomies are against him. A more balanced figure is needed in order to bring peace to Georgia.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Tripledoc
Yes he is. Putin did put a lot of pressure on him for allowing Chechens to stay in his country. However when Sjevardnadse was ousted Russia sent its foreign minister dwon there. They had a photo op where they were holding hands. I take that as a message showing where loyalties are.

I would still like to insist that he is not. But the thing is that the new president will be even worse in many ways.

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


OK, let's say that he is simply a nationalist, and the autonomies are against him. A more balanced figure is needed in order to bring peace to Georgia.

I would say that his partymen parading around with Crusader flags, is bound to put more than a little fear into any minority. This is bad.

[Saras]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Is it usual for you to dismiss facts that contradict your world view, Saras?

What facts?

And abkhazia - I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I think Abkhazias political elite is fully subverted. Hey, admit it, it's your modus operandi . I actually think it is sort of cool, in a sinister way and as long as it is not applied to lithuania