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  • If only Dubya had listened to dear old Dad

    This is what George Bush Senior said in his memoirs, A World Transformed, 5 years ago about why he didn't authorise an invasion of Iraq:


    Trying to eliminate Saddam... would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible...We would have been forced to occuppy Baghdad...there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles.

    Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern of handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occuppying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, The United States could still conceivably be an occuppying power in a bitterly hostile land.

    Gee, that sounds like the situation in Iraq right now.
    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

  • #2
    George Bush Senior is commie and antiamerican.
    "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
    --George Bernard Shaw
    A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
    --Woody Allen

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    • #3
      Nothing is good enough for you! Is it, Dad?
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #4
        pansy.

        as ann coulter would say, he betrayed us and proved himself a traitor by not looking after american interests.
        B♭3

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        • #5
          Papa don't preach.

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          • #6
            We already had this debate before the war. It was the same group of folks that helped form the decision in GWI that helped form the decision in GWII. Even Scowcroft and Baker got their 2 cents in.

            The conclusion is still in play, but the current thinking is that they made a mistake in not finishing the job in GWI. Of course, this is hindsight.

            Lastly, we are not universally hated. Indeed, for now we seem welcome in most areas of the country.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tiberius
              George Bush Senior is commie and antiamerican.
              Still managed to do his military service unlike someone we know
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • #8
                Read the second quote in my sig.........

                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #9
                  Its a powerful statement.

                  I notice the gung ho types around here are strangely silent these days.
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #10
                    Who here would count as gung-ho?

                    MtG?
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                    • #11
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by Tiberius
                      George Bush Senior is commie and antiamerican.


                      Still managed to do his military service unlike someone we know


                      AH, I have a feeling Tiberius was being sarcastic. ;-)

                      EDIT: corrected quote box
                      Last edited by alva; November 19, 2003, 01:00.
                      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      • #12
                        and I was adding to his point
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • #13
                          We can now name this new phenomenon...







                          Rimmertroll
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #14
                            well let's hear you. You had a lot to say once.
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #15
                              hmm, maybe there is an element of truth to this pathetic troll

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