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albert, columbus wasn't the first to discover america. it was some viking dude.
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exactly like a... wait! It is an AA meeting
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Don't get it :-(Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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What are you talking about? It is true, and it's documented very well by Las Casas. Columbus enslaved and slaughtered the Haitains en masse, and established the encomienda system, which was copied in the other Spanish provinces in America.huh? what are you talking about? all we ever here about is how Columbus slaughtered Indians, which apparently, is not even true."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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exactly Ramo... thats all we ever hear about is how evil Columbus was... so the original point of this thread makes no ****ing sense because Columbus is vilified by society. if Columbus' story is an American myth than Columbus must have been great to the indians"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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In a recent years that's what we've been hearing, but think back a decade, or even open any recent high school history book and you're not likely to see much of anything except that thanks to Spain, Columbus sailed west with three boats in search of the Indies, but instead found the new world...and then everybody lived happily ever afterOriginally posted by Albert Speer
exactly Ramo... thats all we ever hear about is how evil Columbus was...
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what planet are you from, centrifuge? don't you know high school textbooks have nothing but white male bashing. its sad really cause they weren't all that bad."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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I thought that was just a BS claim used to sell books.Originally posted by alva
albert, columbus wasn't the first to discover america. it was some viking dude.
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Albert, you're killing me!!!!
Have you ever read a high school history textbook???
They tend to be very one-sided...
...but that is getting off topic, I'm talking specifically about Columbus. If you can find an american high school history textbook, that bashes Columbus in any sense, I'll give some sort of creedence to your obnoxious attitude toward me and my posts.
Edit: I'm debating history not grammar
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...about Washington not being the 1st president, I found this link for those who are interested.
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the vikings predate the chinese, if they ever indeed did reach the american shores, by at least 400 years.B♭3Comment
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1. You asserted that it wasn't true Columbus slaughtered Amerindians. Which is false.exactly Ramo... thats all we ever hear about is how evil Columbus was... so the original point of this thread makes no ****ing sense because Columbus is vilified by society. if Columbus' story is an American myth than Columbus must have been great to the indians
2. I never heard of the specific details of Columbus' atrocities in any class (and evidently you haven't either). What I learned about Columbus in school was some bull**** about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria (and apparantly you've only learned something equally insubstantial with the "in Dios" thing). And maybe some inspecific factoid about his discovery eventually leading to ethnic cleansing.
I didn't learn in school, for instance, about how Columbus, in a fanatic search for gold, decided to force an entire Haitian province to mine gold, killing those who failed to come up with the required amount. Except that there wasn't very much gold there (except for a little bit of gold dust in the streams), so the natives there were totally massacred.
And Columbus is not necessarily vilified in society. Columbus Day is a national holiday, mind you. It's just a handful of PC lefitsts who raise any objections to that sort of thing.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Obviously some people think it's just spiffy teaching 3rd graders that there are no heroes, that every flaw must be exposed in the issue of fairness and "balance."
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American democracy is a myth.
President Bush was elected is a myth.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Hi Dino. I wuv you too.Originally posted by DinoDoc
All union presidents aren't corrupt. (Hi Zkribbler.)
To oxymorons such as compassionate conservatism add: liberal intelligencia.
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pathetic troll of a thread.
Can't someone please stop being a cynic and think about the good qualities of thanksgiving?Comment
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