Rugby World Cup 2003 - Finals!

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
What a lot of twaddle you NH types go on with sometimes!

It seems you are even angrier than that.

[Havak]

I thought the way Tamerlin added to my comments on the AB was pretty entertaining actually Finbar - and the violin line was pure class.

Plus when I tell him he needs to replace the '*' with a 'P' my second language should become crystal clear?

Thought the tomcat line was probably pushing it a bit far.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


Not better than the others hence the colloquialism.

I can fill a violin with my eyes shut! And frequently do. No wonder I'm banned from a few concert halls.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak
I thought the way Tamerlin added to my comments on the AB was pretty entertaining actually Finbar

Only if one is easily entertained.

and the violin line was pure class.

Yes, Australians like to celebrate their defeats - as in Gallipoli - and the French like to celebrate their shocking urinary aim. Why do you think I'd rather be a grenouille?

Plus when I tell him he needs to replace the '*' with a 'P' my second language should become crystal clear?

I got it, I don't know why he didn't. Isn't he familiar with "whoozbluddyshoudizzit?"?

Thought the tomcat line was probably pushing it a bit far.

That one baffled me, though.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
I can fill a violin with my eyes shut! And frequently do. No wonder I'm banned from a few concert halls.

I thought you were only interested in pre 70's rock, music with violins does not qualify as rock as far as I am concerned.

Yes, Australians like to celebrate their defeats - as in Gallipoli - and the French like to celebrate their shocking urinary aim. Why do you think I'd rather be a grenouille?

You are welcomed, remember your political refugee status has been positively revised.

After a few beers I am sure no violin could resist us.

I got it, I don't know why he didn't. Isn't he familiar with "whoozbluddyshoudizzit?"?

"Quel est donc ce charabia ?"

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


I thought you were only interested in pre 70's rock, music with violins does not qualify as rock as far as I am concerned.

My taste is eclectic. Nothing post-1970. Pre-1970, I like all sorts of music. Even stuff with violins in it. Preferably empty, dry ones.

You are welcomed, remember your political refugee status has been positively revised.

After a few beers I am sure no violin could resist us.

"Quel est donc ce charabia ?"

It's not gibberish! It could be translated, in a formal sense, as "may I inquire as to whose turn it is to purchase the next round of drinks?". Havak would reconise the other form, though.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
It's not gibberish! It could be translated, in a formal sense, as "may I inquire as to whose turn it is to purchase the next round of drinks?". Havak would reconise the other form, though.

Sounds like drunkards' talk!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


Sounds like drunkards' talk!

Yes, indeed. Hence, obviously, the inevitability of Havak's familiarity with it.

Now go to bed! What sort of example are you setting your têtard!

Edit. BTW, nice use of the possessive aspotrophe. The têtard might be going to grow up sleep-deprived under your influence, but at least he will be literate.

[Havak]

Only if one is easily entertained.

Front row. English. It’s easy maths…

I never thought we would get Gallipoli (aka Winston’s folly) in the thread.

I got it, I don't know why he didn't. Isn't he familiar with "whoozbluddyshoudizzit?"?

Inevitably I did indeed understand this immediately. We should however have made it Tamerlin’s round until he twigged it – shame you gave the explanation so quickly.

So tell me – where dealing with a named individuals possessive apostrophe does it come before the final s? I have always struggled with possessive apostrophe’s as they seem almost as random as Paddy O’Brien’s law interpretations.

That one baffled me, though.

That impressive sidestep is back.

Okay back to rugger. It’s an interesting team Clive has named. There is certainly no where for us to hide as it is a full strength side (big surprise in an RWC semi final).
Woodman comes back in for Leonard (who moves to the bench) – he is more mobile. Hill returns at blindside to restore the Hill-Back-Dallaglio combination (lets hope he sparks it to the levels it once was). Catt replaces Tindall (I doubt that surprised anyone?) who drops to the bench and Lewsey is fit to return at fullback meaning Robinson returns to the wing.
The bench is also interesting:

D West (hooker), J Leonard (prop), M Corry (lock/loose forward), L Moody (flanker), K Bracken (scrummy), M Tindall (centre who plays like a flanker), I Balshaw (wing/fullback).

The inclusion of Corry is interesting. He is sat on the bench effectively in place of Shaw (specialist lock) whilst Moody bumps Worseley out of the 22. I’m trying to work out what it means – he is certainly more physical than Worseley in the loose so Clive may be anticipating a hard physical battle against the French loosies that he plans to win - and seems to be hedging his bets on Hills fitness by having two loose forwards on the bench. Risky to have no specialist lock though?

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
Yes, indeed. Hence, obviously, the inevitability of Havak's familiarity with it.

Note you seem familiar with it yourself.

Now go to bed! What sort of example are you setting your têtard!

A very bad one I think!

Edit. BTW, nice use of the possessive aspotrophe. The têtard might be going to grow up sleep-deprived under your influence, but at least he will be literate.

Thanks! I am doing my best to develop the tadpole's ability to think, talk, write, read and listen beyond the terrible level displayed by his fellow creatures. Though it might look as an easy task, it is not when you consider the bad influence coming from the said fellow creatures and the daily bombing they are experiencing through the television, the radio and the various commercials.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Havak
Inevitably I did indeed understand this immediately. We should however have made it Tamerlin’s round until he twigged it – shame you gave the explanation so quickly.

If I were you I would have.

Risky to have no specialist lock though?

I hope so!

[finbar]

Originally posted by Havak

Inevitably I did indeed understand this immediately. We should however have made it Tamerlin’s round until he twigged it – shame you gave the explanation so quickly.

I knew Tamerlin wouldn't shout if a shark bit him.

So tell me – where dealing with a named individuals possessive apostrophe does it come before the final s? I have always struggled with possessive apostrophe’s as they seem almost as random as Paddy O’Brien’s law interpretations.

It's pretty simple in that it's logical. Which a lot of grammar isn't.

Singular: Child's toy.
Singular: Klaus' hat.

Plural: Children's toys. (Because "children" is already a plural)
Plural: Horses' bridles.

So if it's a singular that doesn't end with s, it's apostrophe-s.
If it's a singular that ends with s, just add an apostrophe.

If it's a plural that doesn't end with s, it's apostrophe-s.
If it's a plural that ends with s, just add an apostrophe.

The other common error is confusing "it's" and "its". The former is an abbreviation of "it is"; the latter a possessive pronoun - "his job", "her job", "its job".

There is also, of course, what's called the greengrocer's apostrophe, where an apostrophe is used on every plural word - apple's, onion's, et al.

Risky to have no specialist lock though?

You're overloaded with flankers, I'd've thought. You wouldn't want an injury in your second row. Other than that, pretty predictable. It's a must win.

Oh, and it was Mike Catt whom Lomu ran over the top of - terrible sentence construction but it's very late! - on the way to his try in the '95 World Cup. I saw it replayed today.

Oh, and speaking of Mr Catt, I was hunting through my dictionary today, as I am wont to do, and I found a new definition of irony:

irony - noun - When a South African-born player saves the arse of Havak's beloved England team.

Presumably, if Mr Abbott had joined Mr Catt in the process, it would be, so to speak, doubly ironic. As it is, with Mr Abbott being a pretty ordinary player, we'll just have to settle for simple irony.

[finbar]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


Note you seem familiar with it yourself.

I've spent a couple of years in Havak's close company. Eventually, the fumes overcome one!

Thanks! I am doing my best to develop the tadpole's ability to think, talk, write, read and listen beyond the terrible level displayed by his fellow creatures. Though it might look as an easy task, it is not when you consider the bad influence coming from the said fellow creatures and the daily bombing they are experiencing through the television, the radio and the various commercials.

Tell me about it! The english language - writen and spoken - is going to hell in a handcart! Presumably French is, too. I'm totally in favour of ridding French of all that cheap, cruddy Franglais (or whatever the word is for it). You'd better be, too!

[Havak]

So you think your boys can manage to injure either Kay or Johnson then Tamerlin?

I knew Tamerlin wouldn't shout if a shark bit him.

He’d probably charge it for his ‘pound of flesh’.

It's pretty simple in that it's logical. Which a lot of grammar isn't.

You explained it very thoroughly, thank you. At the moment I believe I have a good grasp on it though I am sure it will not be long before I transgress.

And I guarantee I have made the possessive pronoun error with ‘its’ at some point in these threads – even though I do know better.

You're overloaded with flankers, I'd've thought. You wouldn't want an injury in your second row. Other than that, pretty predictable. It's a must win.

Corry would do okay for Kay – he is even a good lineout option at the rear – but if it’s Johnson who goes we would be in trouble I think.

My apologies regarding Catt – my excuse being Lomu scored more than one I’m sure – didn’t he get a hat trick? And it was the unfortunate Tony Underwood who got bulldozed most often. Lomu of course at that time was awesome – impressive power and pace – but for me the try of that game for sheer rugby skills was that of Will Carling whose vision and skills were sublime for his score.

irony - noun - When a South African-born player saves the arse of Havak's beloved England team.

As you are well ware the irony is not lost on me.

Another very simple irony would be that should France defeat us Sunday we will enter the six nations having lost three times in well over two calendar years, and with all three losses to France (and in the same period we will only have defeated them twice so they’ll be ahead on the board). Perfect preparation to pop to Paris and defeat them if so, ample incentive for them to get revenge if not so.

You must not eliminate Franglais – how do you expect me to communicate next time I pop over for ‘Le Weekend’?

Right - time for some Real Ale...

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by finbar
I've spent a couple of years in Havak's close company. Eventually, the fumes overcome one!

Tell me about it! The english language - writen and spoken - is going to hell in a handcart! Presumably French is, too. I'm totally in favour of ridding French of all that cheap, cruddy Franglais (or whatever the word is for it). You'd better be, too!

I am not bothered with the Franglais in itself but by the way people use it or when the people use it because they don't know the french word instead.

I am far more worried by the fact most people don't know how to write properly in French and by the fact they don't care about the quality of what they are reading. The vast majority of them are not able to spot even the most obvious spelling mistakes.