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  • #46
    Originally posted by Elok
    Well, MrFun, to put it more mildly and politely, not EVERYTHING has to be about homosexual rights. I'm an autistic, which means a great many people think of me as a sort of human defect; ****** 2.0. I still don't turn arguments that have nothing to do with autism into soapboxes for my rights or self-respect. Or at least I shouldn't. It's just courtesy. Please don't threadjack.
    I was relating to how you felt, by explaining how I feel the same way, in other circumstances -- that is allowed on Apolyton, isn't it??
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    • #47
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      Einstein was an atheist and a socialist.
      I'd say deist based on some of his comments but that's just a personal opinion.
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      • #48
        Now, for the best of Christians, this is the only assumption they make. Everything else about them stems from this assumption. Their beliefs come from the premise that God is.
        Actually, a better way to put this is to use the analogy of a poker game. If someone keeps drawing royal flushes time and time again the Christian would expect a cheat, whil the Atheist would say that is all due to chance.

        There is evidence that points towards God, hence Christians, and many non-Christians believe.

        Secondly, while the existence of God may be unfalsifiable, so is Atheism. Neither ought to be admitted as scientifically proven. However I would argue that given the evidence, it argues more strongly for the existence of God than not.

        Finally, while existence of God may be not falsifiable, Christianity is not, since if one can disprove the resurrection, one disproves the validity of Christ.

        If you give us our presupposition of the existence of God, you are then left with the task of an eminently falsifieable Christian religion that can be proven.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by MrFun
          I was relating to how you felt, by explaining how I feel the same way, in other circumstances -- that is allowed on Apolyton, isn't it??
          Yes, but it's borderline trolling to make statements that pointed and tangental.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Elok


            Yes, but it's borderline trolling to make statements that pointed and tangental.
            It is??
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #51
              If you really like her then tell her that when she says certain thing she hurts your feelings and then give her examples of when it has occured. After that ask her if she would please not say such things to you again. I'd highlite how you really enjoy spending time with her other wise and then invite her out on a date. If she isn't single then don't call it a date call it a party or working on school work or practicing basketball or what ever it takes to get her into a date like situation with you without actually calling it a date.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Lincoln
                Maybe someday she will be in some type of trouble and she will call out to God for help.
                That's right Lincoln, you can't get her otherwise, so go for the jugular when she's down. Whatever happened to being just and gentlemanly conducts?

                This, more than anything else, is what makes me detest Christianity. While tossing around glowing words everywhere, Christians have no qualms preying on the emotionally weak and vulnerable.

                P.S. I have intentionally omitted any qualifiers. If you are a Christian who don't do that, kindly ignore my rant.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  I'd say deist based on some of his comments but that's just a personal opinion.
                  Read his Out of my Later Years to find out Einstein was indeed an atheist. At least a negative (weak) atheist.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                    Actually, a better way to put this is to use the analogy of a poker game. If someone keeps drawing royal flushes time and time again the Christian would expect a cheat, whil the Atheist would say that is all due to chance.
                    That's a poor analogy, Ben. Atheists don't deny the possibility of intelligent intervention in natural processes. The main argument of the Atheist is that the universe does not need a God to exist.

                    There is evidence that points towards God, hence Christians, and many non-Christians believe.

                    Secondly, while the existence of God may be unfalsifiable, so is Atheism. Neither ought to be admitted as scientifically proven. However I would argue that given the evidence, it argues more strongly for the existence of God than not.
                    This is opinion here. I think that there is evidence pointing towards the possible existence of some sort of creating force. I think we should try to find that, rather than just believe one of the many different beliefs of what that creating force is based on incomplete knowledge of what that creating force does.

                    Finally, while existence of God may be not falsifiable, Christianity is not, since if one can disprove the resurrection, one disproves the validity of Christ.

                    If you give us our presupposition of the existence of God, you are then left with the task of an eminently falsifieable Christian religion that can be proven.
                    You have to prove first that Jesus lived, and second that he was resurrected after he died. Ugh... I shouldn't have said that. I don't feel like getting into that same old argument.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      Secondly, while the existence of God may be unfalsifiable, so is Atheism.


                      Neither is a scientific theory, so "falsification" is not a criterion of the validity.

                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      However I would argue that given the evidence, it argues more strongly for the existence of God than not.
                      If you can do that, you are doing a lot better than loads and loads of theologians.

                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      Finally, while existence of God may be not falsifiable, Christianity is not, since if one can disprove the resurrection, one disproves the validity of Christ.
                      Hm.

                      I think it should be the Christians who are required to show that Jesus of Nazareth did exist, that he actually was crucifixed, and that he actually did come back to life.

                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                      If you give us our presupposition of the existence of God, you are then left with the task of an eminently falsifieable Christian religion that can be proven.
                      If you have already assumed that the Christian god exists, what's there to proof?
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